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Tuesday, March 17, 2009

"People say: You must have been the class clown. And I say, No, I wasn't. But I sat next to the class clown, and I studied him..."

The Best Movies of Our Lives: Part Three (1992-1997)

previously: 1979-1985, 1986-1991

Kyle's Picks


To borrow a line from "Bartlet for America" ("I would like our ten-minute breaks to be closer to fifteen minutes than they are to a half-hour"), I'm going to try not to stray quite so far from the three-sentence maximum for non-winners.

Mark: Don't worry, I go over three sentences as often as a judge that's tough on crime.

1992: A Few Good Men: ok, so, as much as I love this movie, I think I have enough distance from it now to say: is Cruise's plan at the end not colossally stupid? Even though the film holds up after many (many, many) late night viewings, I think I'd like the ending just a little bit more if he had some sort of backup plan (aside from crying and running out of the courtroom) should the Jessup thing fail. Anyway, it's a great movie (wish I'd seen the play), and making it my pick allows me to link to a classic Bill Simmons column (back when he was funny, as opposed to just whatever the hell it is he's doing now) where he uses quotes from AFGM to summarize the 2001 NBA season (part one and part two).

Mark: Excellent selection, it made my runners-up list. I think it was established that Cruise was flying by the seat of his pants and that if he hadn't hit a home run with that final gambit with Jessup that he was going to lose the case anyway, so why not go for broke? [Kyle: you mean, aside from being court-martialled?] It was basically the exact opposite of what happened with Marcia Clark, Christopher Darden and the infamous phrase "Hey, let's have him try on the glove."

Other nominees...

A League of Their Own
(switch with AFGM?): torn here, since this could really be my #1. I'd argue/have argued that it's the 3rd* best sports movie ever. I like this film so much that I even included a reference to it in my personal statement to U of T Law (the part where Geena Davis tries to quit the team because it's too hard to play and maintain a family and Tom Hanks fires back “It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The ‘hard’ is what makes it great.”) Awesome.

*
= ok, technically I put it at #2 back in June '08, but that seems pretty indefensible now (it's not better than Friday Night Lights).

Reservoir Dogs:
better than Pulp? The older I get, the more I lean towards yes. It's certainly not as showy, but it's a tighter movie.

The Player:
my first Altman movie. Aside from the opening shot (the long tracking shot with--in signature Altman fashion--numerous overlapping conversations), this is probably rather more run-of-the-mill than I'd like to remember, but Robbins really carries it through.

Glengarry Glen Ross: maybe the meanest movie of my lifetime (or Kids, though GGGR has the distinction of, you know, actually being good). Few films have ever done as good a job as this one at conveying sheer desperation (the way they coveted those leads still makes be shudder). I'd be remiss, of course, if I didn't mention that Jack Lemon's portrayal of Shelley Levene is said to be the basis for Gil Gunderson from The Simpsons (my favorite character).

movie from 1992 that I really should've seen by now: Malcolm X or Last of the Mohicans

Mark: Have you ever noticed that a lot of 'best sports movie ever' lists omit A League Of Their Own, or at most mention it with a "Pfft, Madonna and Rosie O'Donnell playing baseball? Shyeah right!" type of comment? I think some people are just biased against women's sports in any incarnation.

Dude, c'mon, Reservoir Dogs better than Pulp Fiction? I don't think so. They're playing on two different levels.

I'll end this Oreo of criticism with a final layer of tasty cookie agreeability by saying that I really, really need to see Glengarry Glen Ross. Something tells me I'll love it. My favourite GGR reference was an old SNL skit with Alec Baldwin as a tyrannical head elf in Santa's workshop whose motto was 'Always Be Cobbling.' Also notable for the fact that Baldwin slips up and says 'closing' at one point, thus causing the elves (yes, one of them was Jimmy Fallon) to crack up.

Kyle: ok, now that I've seen my Reservoir Dogs > Pulp Fiction in print, I'm regretting it. If forced to stand by it, I'll say that nothing in RD is unnecessary (no Butch's French girlfriend, no Gimpesque "wtf?" moment) and that it builds relentlessly to a pretty kick-ass climax. Yeah, ok...not very convincing (though I disagree entirely that the two are on completely different levels).

1993: Dave: maybe my sleeper pick of the series (or '94). A part-time POTUS lookalike secretly becoming the actual President when the real President falls ill, Kevin Kline at his charming best, Sigourney Weaver at her absolute friskiest, Frank Langella as a first-rate foil, and Charles fucking Grodin? Seriously, what's not to like here? How this only rates a 6.8 (I know, I know, I'm too invested in these ratings) on imdb is beyond me. This is a terrific movie. Of particular note is the scene where Dave single-handedly (some might say preposterously) balances the budget so that the First Lady's childcare initiative can be saved. I love that scene.

Mark: OH HELL YES. I thank you for giving Dave this recognition. It killed me to leave it off my 1993 list since it's such a good comedy and Kevin Kline is a personal hero of mine. I like this pick so much that I'll overlook the fact that you referred to Sigourney Weaver as 'frisky.'

Other nominees...

The Fugitive: one of the all-time "it's on TV so I need to watch it from whichever point it's at and see it all the way through to the end." This movie never stops being awesome.

Groundhog Day: not a lot to say that hasn't already been said (is this your pick for '93? I'm guessing yes), so I'll ask this: how much time do you think goes by in the movie? Before you answer, remember that Phil Connors learns how to play the jazz piano professionally, speak fluent French...and claims to have died every way imaginable. (If you've heard this before and know the answer, pretend my question was "if you didn't already know, how long would you estimate that Phil was trapped on February 2nd?")

In the Name of the Father:
this is all DDL (not sure if I can name another actor in the movie without looking it up) and he's flat out tremendous here. (Oh, turns out Emma Thompson was in it, too. My bad.) Is there a better secretly awesome director than Jim Sheridan? Here are some of the movies he's directed (see if you can spot the one that doesn't seem to belong but was, indeed, directed by him): My Left Foot, In the Name of the Father, The Boxer, In America, and Get Rich or Die Tryin'.

Philadelphia:
a very good film that, if I'm not mistaken, I have not seen more than three consecutive of since the night it was released sixteen years ago (which is somewhat anomalous compared to...pretty much every other movie I've listed). Notable for inspiring Eric Mayr and I to refer to every dingy movie theatre (Huron Market Place) as the Mustang Theatre (and don't even get me started on the Mustang Drive-In). Good (by which, I of course mean: immature) times.

movie from 1993 that I really should've seen by now:
Schindler's List (inexcusable, I know.)

Mark: Well, we need to get together and having a Schindler's List viewing party some night. I'll bring the popcorn, which I'm sure will be left cold and uneaten after the first five minutes. I should've put Philadelphia and ITNOTF on my 'must-see' list, though I agree that Sheridan is a tremendously underrated director. Gratuitous U2 mention: they have a new song on the soundtrack of Sheridan's upcoming film Brothers.

Now, Phil's time in Punxatawney...apparently, in an early draft, Harold Ramis planned to leave him there for thousands of years, but that was scaled back a bit. I'd guess four years at a minimum; one year being a jerk, one year trying to kill himself and at least two years learning piano/French and being a nice guy.

Kyle: yeah, Ramis's original plan was 10,000 years. It's actually supposed to be 10 in the movie, though they're really isn't any empirical evidence one way or the other.

*1994 (5+ movies): Quiz Show: a bit of a shocker, I'm sure. I went back and forth with this and Shawshank, but I ultimately selected Quiz Show. Why? (Seriously: why, Kyle?) Well...I was going to go off on a rant about how it was prescient in terms of predicting the baseball drug scandal (interesting...but a bit of a stretch), but I think what really gets me about this movie is that it's a great story, simply told, with outstanding performances by Ralph Fiennes, John Turturro, Rob Morrow, and Paul Scofield (the only one of the lot to get an acting nomination for this). Redford could've used the Twenty One corruption as a jumping off point for America's loss of innocence and blah blah blah, but wisely elected to focus his attention on how this affected the contestants, dirty or otherwise. Van Doren's downfall, when it comes, is incredibly moving, largely because Fiennes, in his understated way, infuses the character with so much sadness that you can't help but pity him (even though you know you shouldn't). A great movie...easily one of the most underrated of the decade.

Mark: Wow, Quiz Show? Seriously? I toyed with the idea of making 1994 a ten-movie year, but Quiz Show was nowhere near my radar screen। It had an interesting premise, but managed to make it just about as dull as possible. It doesn't help that I'm not a fan of Redford as a director. How the hell did NEITHER of us pick Shawshank?!

Other nominees...

The Shawshank Redemption: your #1 pick, I think. This is veryclose to being my #1, (it's elevated considerably by a jaw-droppingly good final thirty minutes) but, for whatever reason, I feel like I appreciate Quiz Show more.

Dumb and Dumber: This is now fifteen years old and, off the top of my head, I can only think of seven movies that have come out since that are (arguably) as funny (or funnier): The 40-Year Old Virgin, Superbad, Step-Brothers, Anchorman, Best in Show, Toy Story, and There's Something About Mary. That's pretty impressive. Lines I still use from this movie: "tell her I have a rapist's wit"; "SAMONSITE. I was way off!"; "The first time I set eyes on [insert name], I just got that old fashioned feeling where I'd do anything to bone her"; "just go man": "Harry, your hands are freezing" (and basically anything from the double glove scene). Good times.

Clerks: I'm told that this has aged remarkably poorly, but I'm too afraid to confirm this. I don't even think I care, because, at least in 1994, this was sheer genius. (Randall's CCCP hockey jersey is probably 95% responsible for me finally getting a similar T-shirt three weeks ago.)

Pulp Fiction: don't really have anything to say here. It's obviously a terrific film. Having watched it not too long ago, it's interesting how completely extraneous Bruce Willis's subplot is. Feels far more like padding than I realized at the time.

Forrest Gump: manipulative? Oh my, yes! But, hell, I still love it. Four points: (1) originally, the part was offered to Travolta (though the timing doesn't make a ton of sense, since this would've been more or less concurrent with him being cast in Pulp, i.e. his comeback role); (2) the film is approximately 50,000 times better than the book (trust me--Forrest is actually an astronaut for part of the book...awful); (3) It's become slightly tougher for me to enjoy this movie after Tony Kornheiser pointed out that it's Republican propaganda, in that the movie is an indictment of all the liberal excesses of the 60s and 70s. Think about it. (4) I feel like, for whatever reason (increase in moviegoer sophistication? Growing societal cynicism?), if this movie were released today, it simply wouldn't catch on. (Case in point: Benjamin Button, FG's nearest analog, has met with decidedly mixed reviews.)

Hoop Dreams:
winner of the coveted "Best Documentary never to be nominated for Best Documentary at the Oscars" award (largely by virtue of me not being able to name another one). This is a pretty great movie, even if it's overlong (I'd like to think that I enjoy basketball more than 999 out of every 1,000 people, but even I was ready to claw my own eyes out during minute fifteen of the uncomfortably serious third act one-on-one game between Arthur and his dad).

Speed: only a 7.2 on imdb, which is a bit surprising. After all, what's not to like here? Some good trivia: (1) Sandra Bullock's part was originally offered to Ellen DeGeneres; and (2) from imdb: "A Fox producer realized they might have a movie hit in their hands when he noticed that, during test screenings, audience members would walk backwards when they needed to go to the bathroom so they would miss as little as possible." Nice.

Having seen this on the A Channel at 4 in the morning not that long ago, here's a question (and I'm more than a little ashamed it took ten or so viewings for me to pick up on this): can you fathom why the bus needed to jump the freeway, when the police escort simply took an earlier exit? Fairly massive plot hole, no?

The Madness of King George: pretty underrated. Have you seen this, Shuk?

movie from 1994 that I really should've seen by now:
Heavenly Creatures

Mark: Ooh, Heavenly Creatures, good one. Never seen it (same with Madness of King George). 'Clerks' has actually been redeemed a bit by 'Clerks II.' The sequel lowered the bar so much that when you go back to watch the original, you're thinking, hey, this is still a pretty good flick. My guess on the Speed plot hole is that Bullock simply missed the exit; she was under a lot of stress, so it's not hard to imagine that she isn't 100 percent up on the condition of every L.A. freeway. I didn't know that about Degeneres. 'Speed' already gets enough unwarranted guff just for the Keanu/over-the-top Dennis Hopper combination; adding Ellen to the mix would've made this movie seem like a joke to modern audiences that had never seen it.

Re: Forrest Gump. 4) The difference between FG and Button is that FG obviously had a sense of humour about itself, whereas Button took itself so seriously that it squeezed the wonder out of the film. 3) From what I know of Hanks and Zemeckis' politics, I find it hard to believe that they'd make 'Republican propaganda.' The Vietnam War and Lt. Dan's pro-military attitude are criticized too. 2) You're right about the book. Its awfulness is only topped by the even worse sequel, "Gump & Co." which involves plots like Forrest coming up with New Coke. 1) That's an interesting casting tidbit about Travolta. He made the right call in going with Pulp Fiction, since 'Gump' seems like one of those movies that would've been a total disaster with anyone but Tom Hanks as the lead.

Kyle: yeah, Clerks II was a bit of a gong show, with the biggest plot hole by far being: why in the world would someone as cool as Rosario Dawson's character (who is basically just Rosario Dawson, I think) want to have anything to do with Brian O'Halloran's Dante? This makes Speed look like a real-time documentary by comparison. This, coupled with a not-very-good Dogma, a lousy Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, and an only ok Zak and Miri Make a Porno really makes me wonder why Kevin Smith is still spoken of so reverentially in many circles. I mean, I dig those Evenings with Kevin Smith, too, but come on...anyway, this is probably a conversation for another time.

Mark: See, I actually like J&SB second-best of Smith's movies, but if his ceiling has currently been lowered to 'zany showbiz comedy,' it might be time to move onto something else.

1995: Toy Story: I think it really says something that, in a year that has maybe the strongest top five of the decade (no doubt you'll dispute that, but, I mean Braveheart is #6...that's solid) it took me approximately 0.3 seconds to make Toy Story my #1. RT and I were discussing this earlier in the week and we agreed that this movie, with its high concept pitch (what if all your toys were real?) has no business being as engaging as it is (this was followed by several uncharitable comments directed towards Randy Newman), but it works. This is a wonderful, wonderful film, with lots of laughs (all of Woody's catchphrases, though "someone's poisoned the watering hole" remains a favorite of mine; the stuff with the toy soldiers; and anything involving Buzz thinking that he's actually the Buzz Lightyear), but lots of heart too (if you don't well up a bit when Woody gets cast aside for the new toy or when Woody reunites with Andy at the end, then I respectfully suggest that you yourself are made of slightly toxic plastic--and not the kind that comes to life when no one is watching). Or, you know, you just haven't seen it, but that's just so laughable that I'm chastising myself for even mentioning it. Right? Right??

Mark: No complaints from me, though I have a bombshell about Toy Story that I'll save for my own list. I'll just add here that the Hanks/Allen voice casting was inspired and that I'd really love to know exactly what Joss Whedon's contributions to the script were.

Other nominees...

The Usual Suspects: I know, I know, you don't like it at all. And short of you feeling that the ending pretty much negates everything that came before it--which was (and remains) Ebert's position....he gave the movie 2 out of 4 stars, and a thumbs down--which is an argument I'm not unreceptive to, I profess to being totally mystified. (Interestingly, a script-writing book I've been reading--Good Scripts, Bad Scripts by Thomas Pope--calls TUS "a good screenplay that could've been great," lamenting that there's too much tell and not enough show--mainly Fenster and Edie's deaths--a complaint I don't exactly buy, since the reasons for this should, I think, be pretty fucking clear in hindsight. I'll also note that this is the same book that rips into The Abyss for the unforgivable sin of killing off the villain in the second act, which...whatever.) Anyway, I'll allow you to voice your concerns about the movie before I unload on you.

Apollo 13: this has been on AMC and History Channel incessantly of late (not that I'm complaining). Just a ridiculously compelling film (I'm particularly fond of the scene where they gather up the engineers and get them to devise a solution for cartridge that won't fit, using only things on the ship). Of particular note is that I watched this on opening day with my buddy Eric Mayr, who was absolutely terrified that they were all going to die, prompting me to observe that the screenplay was based on Jim Lovell's book, so...

Se7en: Re-watched this recently, and, my God, is it ever dark. The Usual Suspects and The Sixth Sense appear to have the twist ending market cornered, but, frankly, this deserves to be in the coversation. (I'm particularly fond of the film's final line: "Ernest Hemingway once wrote, 'The world is a fine place and worth fighting for.' I agree with the second part.") It also marks the last time Kevin Spacey didn't let his ego get in the way of a project.

12 Monkeys: harrowing. Bruce Willis has never been better. (Brad Pitt, too.) I especially enjoyed Gilliam's handling of the time-travelling aspect, which resisted pat answers and confronted paradoxes head-on (we'll call that the anti-Timeline).

movie from 1995 that I really should've seen by now: Babe

Mark: Oh shit, I forgot about Babe. Probably wouldn't have made my top five, but it certainly deserved at least a mention. And, in terms of an overall strong top five, I might have to go with 1993 or 1994 over 1995.

But enough about that, let's get down to bashing The Usual Suspects! I don't *hate* it per se, since I'd only hate a movie that I never found compelling. TUS works perfectly well the first time you watch it and it's an effective twist in that sense. My problem is, if you watch the film a second time, then suddenly 75% of the movie is completely pointless. There's probably a post-modern argument in there somewhere about how it's ironic that I'm complaining about watching a movie featuring a character telling a made-up story while realizing that I'm voluntarily watching a made-up film, but man, don't sell me that bulljive. A truly great twist leaves you wanting to watch the movie again so you can see the clues left pointing towards the denouement and essentially get a whole new viewing experience out of it. TUS just doesn't provide that at all since the Byrne/Baldwin/Del Toro/Pollack segments are now completely fictional. The mark of a truly great movie is its ability to stand the test of time, and TUS doesn't even make it to the second showing.

Kyle: Alas, I don't particularly disagree with any of this (see my comments for 1997).

1996 (I'm taking six here, but not counting it as one of my bonus years, since I inadvertently forgot my initial favorite for '96, and went with Guffman): Swingers: wow...completely my bad for leaving this one out. Watched it not too long ago and I'm pleased to report that it's as entertaining as ever. (Seriously, no supporting actor nomination for Vince Vaughn here? That's a travesty. And that he hasn't done anything remotely Oscar-worthy since isn't a valid argument.) Swingers is probably the definitive pre-drink movie...and since I can't really talk about this movie without effusively praising it (seriously, it's not pleasant), I'll limit to myself to the following observation: Mikey: big loser or biggest loser in cinema history? Those are your only choices. Count the number of cringe moments: (1) everything that happens to him at the blackjack table; (2) the way he orders his scotch at the casino; (3) "we're not in Kansas anymore"; (4) "I'll have the pancakes in the Age of Enlightenment"; (5) busting in on Tre and his new lady friend in the trailer to check his messages; (6) rebuffed by the girl who asks what kind of car he drives at the house party; (7) embarrassed by the girl he's hitting on in the bar later that night when it turns out he tried to apply for a job at her Starbucks two weeks earlier; and (8) miraculously gets her number, only to blow any chance he has with her the second he gets home when he leaves six messages on her answering machine (arguably the most uncomfortable non-sexual scene in movie history). The only remotely cool thing he does is swing dance with Heather Graham (hey, remember Heather Graham? She was kind of awesome for a while there...), and even that, based on what we've seen in the preceding 80 minutes, isn't completely enjoyable, since you assume he'll somehow botch that too. It really is a tour-de-force performance by Favreau.

Mark: Solid choice. And thankfully, I've done only about three or four of those things on Mikey's list. Favreau's had an interesting career; Swingers, two very memorable TV guest stints (as Eric the Clown on Seinfeld and his run as Monica's billionaire-turned-UFC fighter boyfriend on Friends) and now suddenly A-list director. It's certainly more interesting than Vaughn's huge initial success at basically playing himself here, then being in nothing but garbage for six years, then suddenly deciding to stick to playing himself and starring in a bunch of huge comedies.

Other nominees...

Waiting for Guffman (1997--played at BFF in August and TIFF in September): sure, it's not on par with Best in Show (few things are), but it's undeniably (I said undeniably, Shuk) hilarious. Of particular note is Fred Willard with the towel wrapped around his neck after performing (a bit I use as often as I can), Fred Willard recreating the end of the '61 World Series (a deleted scene, I believe) with Catherine O'Hara (his wife) as an unwilling (and utterly dejected) participant, and Corky's Remains of the Day lunchboxes. I think Misha and I watched this once a week for all of 1998.

Fargo: a lot to love here (Macy and McDormand, in particular).

Mission Impossible: an unfairly maligned series, in my opinion (except for the excrable MI:2, which is justifiably criticized). The original M:I is pretty kick ass. The thing that bothered (and bothers) me the most is that this was bagged on for being too hard to follow. Really?? I can only assume that Thief would make your head explode.

Jerry Maguire:
everything up to Cush's betrayal of Jerry is pretty terrific, then it's slow for an hour or so, then it picks up right at the end (though as Simmons pointed out in one of his podcasts, given that Jerry was in Arizona for a Monday night game, waited around for Rod afterwards, went to the airport, flew back to L.A., then drove or taxied it back to Zellweger's place, there's really no conceivable way that his tearful speech could've taken place any earlier than 3 a.m., which means: world's longest Women's Book Club meeting prior to that. And I'll add: no way that a recently jilted Zellweger isn't totally hammered on wine coolers by the time Jerry ambles in)

When We Were Kings:
next to Hoop Dreams, probably the best sports documentary of all-time (and I'll save you the trouble, Mark: the 1992 and 1993 Blue Jays Year in Review tapes do not count.) I'm endlessly fascinated by what a colossal douche Ali was back in the day (although everyone has collectively agreed never to mention this again).

Movie from 1996 I probably should've seen by now: The English Patient

Mark: I didn't realize Waiting for Guffman premiered at TIFF the year prior. Whatever the release date, it's impossible that I haven't seen this yet. Can we watch it after our Schindler's List night? I have a feeling we might need a pick-me-up.

There was a fascinating article a few years ago in SI about the long-lasting rivalry between Ali and Joe Frazier, and how to this day Frazier still holds a grudge against Ali for some of the great one's pre-fight trash talk (calling Frazier an Uncle Tom and other race-based taunts). That's the weird dichotomy of Muhammad Ali --- people forget that he was probably the most hated athlete in the world for most of the 60's and early 70's. I'm not sure there's even a modern-day comparison since so few sports have a truly worldwide profile, but imagine that you time-travel to 2030 and discover that Terrell Owens is being awarded a Congressional Medal Of Honor. That's how much of a turn Ali made in his latter years.

Jerry Maguire wins my Worst Movie The Other Guy Picked award for 1992-97. The two bright spots are provided by the whole Kush storyline (which should've been a movie of its own) and a career-best performance from Zellweger, who tries her best to salvage the love story. Just so I'm not throwing Cruise totally under the bus in 1996, yes, I did like Mission Impossible. Interestingly enough, apparently most of the original cast of the TV show (particularly Peter Graves) hate the movie due to the Jim Phelps heel turn.

p.s. My whole list is invalid since I didn't include the 92-93 Blue Jays videos. "Maldonado...OVER EVERYTHING!!!"

Kyle: No joke, I totally got a chill when you referenced that Maldonado sound-bite--amazing sequence. If we ever end up ranking...92 Blue Jays ranks right up there with the 89' Pistons and '84 Tigers video...and I fucking hated that store-bought championship team. That Owens reference kind of freaks me out.

I dunno, is Jerry Maguire really that bad? It's far from perfect, but I think the agency stuff brings something new to the table.

1997: The Game: man, I just love this movie. Unlike other twist movies, which tend to recede from view on subsequent viewings (even with The Usual Suspects, a movie I love, when I re-watch, I can't shake the feeling during the first 95 minutes of the movie that "you know, this really isn't how things actually went down...and we're never going to find out exactly how it did"), The Game holds up quite nicely, which is no small part due to Michael Douglas's fantastic work as Nicholas van Orton. His performance is so visceral--initially bemused, then intrigued, then somewhat worried, then panic-stricken, followed by demoralized, and closing with batshit insane--that you really have to hand it to him. Every time I re-watch The Game, I can't help but think: "well, how could he possibly not think he's been royally fucked over?"

As for those that bag on the ending for being implausible: (1) it's, at best, the 9th or 10th most implausible thing that happens in the movie; and (2) fuck right off. This movie is thrilling as hell, so you'd damn well better be willing to cut it some slack in its final moments.

Right down to the film's final music cue (Jefferson Airplane's "White Rabbit," cued at the absolute perfect moment), I adore this film.


Mark: Oops, Jerry Maguire might have to give the award back. I'm one of the people that was totally deflated by the ending, since it was humming along as a perfectly good thriller until that terrible, stupid, non-sensical finale. Obligatory SPOILER ALERT for anyone who hasn't seen it, but the fact that Nicholas was literally driven to (what he thought was) suicide makes the happy ending absurd. He was DRIVEN TO THE EDGE OF DESPAIR, and yet after he sees his brother alive, he is able to shake it all off and is partying it up five minutes later? Bullshit. Being involved in a 'Game' like that would put anyone into a rubber room. Also, the Game-makers took a big risk that he would land directly onto that greenhouse; if Douglas had jumped off a different section of the roof and dropped 15 stories to the pavement, I certainly hope that Sean Penn would've been given a refund.

Kyle: again, the conspiracy is so all encompassing that they can patch in to the TV signal in Van Orton's home, drain his bank accounts, stage a car crash where it appears as though he might drown, nearly drive him insane, bury him in a Mexican graveyard, and lead him to believe that he has inadvertently murdered his own brother, and your beef is that he might've tried to face-plant off a different part of the roof? If you accept everything else, can't we just assume that they had safety nets wrapped around the outside of the building? Or that they would've tranqued him before he jumped? However, I do agree that him being in a party mood immediately after the reveal instead of being, say, hopelessly traumatized is a bit tough to stomach (awkward cocktail party conversation: "so....you try to kill yourself twenty minutes ago, eh? Douglas: [sheepishly] "um...yeah."). Question: how much would you say his bill for the Game is? I'm putting it at $5,000,000 (remember, however, that Conrad is supposed to pay the whole thing and that Nicholas only offers to split it after seeing the total--I'm going to call bullshit on the two of them going halfsies...no way is Connie that flush.)

Other nominees...

Good Will Hunting:
a near-great movie "written" by Matt Damon and Ben Affleck that's very nearly submarined by two especially (Robin Williams explaining Will's van Gogh comment--t --and the "it's not your fault" scene, which, despite being the movie's emotional centre, is awkward and goes on for too long). This also marks the last time I ever found Minnie Driver even remotely tolerable.

Titanic:
cliched? Check. Totally lacking in nuance? Check. Overlong? Check. But damned if the last 70 minutes aren't totally captivating. Curious to see if you'll include this (be prepared for me to call you disingenuous if you don't).

L.A. Confidential:
not unlike The Princess Bride, this is movie I feel somewhat guilty about, in that I feel strongly about it, but not nearly as strongly as some others. It's great, but certainly not perfect (coughBaysingercough). Fun fact: this is the first DVD I ever owned (...and I actually had it for two weeks before I even got a DVD player).

Boogie Nights:
a much better movie than I gave it credit for at the time (I liked it, but found the Goodfellas-esque transition from successful Dirk to hopelessly coked-out Dirk in the span of a smash cut to be a little jarring). But I caught it about a month ago and? Awesome. The ten minute montage beginning with humble Dirk cleaning up at his first Adult Movie Awards, him beginning to enjoy his fame, him cleaning up again at the AMAs, the camera sweeping around the room before stopping on Dirk, whereupon he says "thank you" and walks way, is flat-out dazzling, and probably one of the coolest sequences I've ever seen in a movie.

The Sweet Hereafter*: "everything was strange and new. Everything was strange and new." A haunting, wonderful film. Still not totally sure why Sarah Polley isn't a huuuuge star. (By choice?)

* = which was, hilariously and totally inexplicably, referenced on an episode of American Dad a couple of Sundays ago. Weird.

Movie from 1997 that I really should've seen by now: Amistad.

Mark: I hope your buddy Eric Mayr didn't get too worked up during the last hour of Titanic. "OH NO! They hit an iceberg?! How will they salvage the ship??" I'm not the biggest fan of Boogie Nights, though I feel maybe I need to give that one a second look since P.T. Anderson's films lend well to repeat viewings. Poor Affleck, Damon and William Goldman have sworn up and down that there was no script doctoring involved, but I guess that legend will never die. It is pretty funny to read about Damon/Affleck's original pitch of Good Will Hunting as a techno-thriller.

Now, since you brought it up, and this is a bit off-topic but....American Dad: most underrated show on TV right now? It is right up there in the 30 Rock/Office/Conchords ballpark as the funniest show on TV. It's by far the funniest animated show on the air, if nothing else.

Kyle: I want to believe Affleck and Damon (well, at least Damon), I really do. But, seriously, look at their writing credits on imdb. I mean: come on. It's unbelievably fishy (though Gone Baby Gone was, in fairness, pretty good....which begs the question: who did Affleck trick into writing that one for him?).

You're bang on about American Dad. It's just terrific. (Steve has been a revelation this year.)


Mark: I don't find it so impossible to believe that Affleck is incapable of coming up with one good script every decade. It's not as if GWH was a particularly out-there plot or anything, and Gone Baby Gone was an adaptation. That said, I'm not naive enough to believe that they wrote each and every word of the script themselves. I truly believe that a Mitchell Report-esque impact could be made if someone released a list of every movie that had at least a 50-percent ghostwritten script. There's probably at least 10 films on our lists alone that were probably heavily the work of someone other than the credited writers.

(Hey, these entries weren't shorter at all!)

Mark's Picks

1992....Unforgiven: The anti-Western that stands as arguably the best Western ever, or at least the best Western (no pun intended) directed by someone besides John Ford. If there has ever been an actor who knows how to be a bad-ass, it's Clint Eastwood, and it's fantastic how the whole point of the film is that William Munny doesn't want to partake in his past murderous ways, and yet when he finally does, it's completely satisfying to the viewer. This is in part because Gene Hackman plays such a loathsome villain that my god, you just want to grab a gun and shoot your TV screen a la Elvis. Just a great movie all-around. p.s. What got into the Academy between 1991-1993? They had a three-year stretch of picking the consensus audience and critical darling for Best Picture every year: Silence Of The Lambs, Unforgiven and Schindler's List. That might be the best 'no complaints' stretch in Oscar history.

Runners-up....

A Few Good Men: Impulsively rewatchable, which is rare for a complex courtroom drama. As much as the Cruise/Nicholson "you can't handle the truth!" scene has been parodied over the years, it still hasn't lost a bit of impact. Reservoir Dogs was a strong contender for the runners-up list, but AFGM strenuously objected to being omitted, so I had to keep it on.

A League Of Their Own: Hands-down one of the best baseball movies ever. Career high points for Geena Davis and Lori Petty, one of Tom Hanks' best roles and certainly his funniest, and also notable for being the last time Madonna was tolerable in a movie and the last time that Rosie O'Donnell was tolerable, full stop.

Noises Off: This is a personal favourite that isn't too well-known. It's the film version of the classic Michael Frayn theatrical farce about a group of actors whose own attempt to put on a farce is beset by backstage drama. The first part of the story shows you the 'proper' version of the play-within-the-play, and then you see it twice more as it gradually degenerates into chaos. Most pundits think the film version was crap, but the movie cast is terrific (Carol Burnett, Michael Caine, John Ritter, Julie Hagerty, Christopher Reeve) and unlike the play, the movie actually has an ending that ties it together a bit better.

Wayne's World: I'm sad to report that this film that gotten ever-so-slightly dated. Well, maybe a bit more than ever-so-slightly, but still, it was such a titan of comedy in my youth that it would be wrong to omit it from the list. The Stan Mikita doughnut shop might be the greatest in-joke for Canadians in movie history. And....

"A gun rack? I don't even own A gun, let alone many guns that would necessitate an entire rack."
"Wayne, if you're not careful, you're going to lose me."
"I lost you two months ago! We broke up! Are you mental? Get the net!"

Most notable movie(s) I haven't seen: Bob Roberts, The Crying Game, The Player, Glengarry Glen Ross. Yikes, this would be a lot of people's top four for the year. I need to get to a video store.

Kyle: dunno...I've always felt that Unforgiven was ponderous. Hackman and Eastwood are, indeed, excellent, but it really seems to plod along. I've actually seen it several times--since this is one of those movies that I know I'm supposed to love, but I don't, and, somewhat sadistically, this intrigues me--and I never cease to be amazed at how inert it is. That said, it's been a few years, so maybe it's time for me to cue it up again. But enough about me bashing your pick...

So glad you're on board with A League of Their Own. I agree, it's criminally underrated. Hasn't seen Noises Off, but this is like the third or fourth time I've heard you talk it up, so maybe I should make a point of renting it. As for Wayne's World, you're right, it--like virtually the entire Mike Myers catalogue (with the possible exception of So I Married An Axe-Murderer)--has aged remarkably poorly, to the point where I'm actually kind of embarrassed I ever enjoyed W'sW and the Austin Powers series (and this is coming from someone who watches Teen Wolf routinely still to this day, so obviously I have no shame). Care to comment on this phenomenon? (Jim Carrey is, of course, totally guilty of this as well, but at least we can point to Dumb & Dumber as a comedy for the ages.) In many ways, it's far more troubling (or, at least, more confounding) than, say, a Dane Cook-type, who, so far as I know, has never (and will never) be even remotely amusing.


Mark: Try this one on for size...Mike Myers is the comedy version of Joe Carter. Both were Canadian legends in the early 1990's, but as time has gone by, their work has aged poorly (in Carter's case, thanks to the OPS+ statistical measurement). The difference, of course, is that aside from a forgettable stint doing colour commentary on Jays game, Carter has stayed a fond memory for Jays fans. Myers, however, made the Love Guru, and is currently serving 10-15 years in the Kingston Pen.

Kyle: solid.

1993.....Short Cuts: After Robert Altman burst back into prominence with The Player in 1992, he followed it up with arguably the best possible example of the Altman-esque style. Interlocking plotlines, over 20 major characters, a phenomenal cast (good performances from everyone from Jack Lemmon and Julianne Moore to Huey Lewis and Lyle Lovett) and a movie so layered that I've seen it three times and still couldn't really give you a proper rundown of how the story unfolds. Only Altman could keep this many balls in the air and still deliver such a great movie. And, as an added bonus, Julianne Moore's vagina! (Insert joke about 'Short Cuts' and her personal grooming here.)

Runners-up.....

Dazed & Confused: I think it's a Hollywood law that every 20 years, someone has to make a really great 'teenagers driving around, hanging out' period piece. 1973 had American Graffiti, a.k.a. the best movie George Lucas ever made. 1993 had D&C, a.k.a. probably Richard Linklater's best movie and one of the all-time great movies for picking out future stars in small roles. I look forward to the next great coming-of-age driving movie in 2013, presumably directed by me and based on the time in 2000 that my crew went driving down Richmond Street trying to figure out what to do, and my drunken friend Eric started pointing and laughing at the rough-looking guys in the car next to us when we were stopped at a red light. I didn't realize my mother's old Toyota Prelude could move that quickly.

The Fugitive: Hands-down the best 'TV show-to-movie' adaptation of all time. Just a gripping, smart and well-made thriller from start-to-finish, which makes me wonder why director Andrew Davis hasn't made anything else even in the ballpark of 'Fugitive' in the rest of his career. Favourite random Fugitive tidbit: Mick Foley's mandible claw finishing move was invented by the real-life Richard Kimble, Dr. Sam Sheppard, who was briefly a pro wrestler after his medical career was ruined by the controversy surrounding his wife's murder.

Groundhog Day: You could air this movie 50 years from now and it wouldn't seem dated at all. Not just a great high-concept comedy, but a high-concept so, uh, high that it has entered popular language to describe any repetitive situation. As great as the script it, however, I have a feeling that only Bill Murray could have properly pulled off the Phil Connors character as well.

The Sandlot:
A tough pick over such other 1993 classics as Dave, Jurassic Park, Rudy, Remains Of The Day and Falling Down, but I could hardly ignore one of my favourite baseball movies ever. No truth to the rumour that the Monster in Lost was inspired by 'the Beast.'

Most notable movie(s) I haven't seen: Schindler's List. Yeah, I know. In my defense, I did try to see it in theatres, but I ended up making out with my girlfriend and was ratted out by Wayne Knight.

Kyle: Hmmm...I'm lukewarm towards Short Cuts, too. You're bang on about all the moving parts, but I feel it doesn't amount to anything coherent and/or interesting. (Which, carrying the metaphor well beyond its usefulness, I guess makes Short Cuts the Contrabulous Fabtraption of Professor Horatio Hufnagel).

Good call with your remaining picks (Sandlot = inspired choice...and only partly because it forced you to snub the--to my mind--very overrated Jurassic Park). I'd argue that Clerks, released at approximately the same time as Dazed & Confused, is a pretty good contemporary hanging out and driving around movie (although admittedly light on the latter requirement).

1994.....Pulp Fiction: Along with A Fish Called Wanda, Pulp Fiction is my favourite movie of all time. A line I once read in a review of PF is the best way to sum up the film's appeal: it would be just as entertaining to listen to as an audio book as it would be to watch on the silver screen. To use a cliche, the dialogue crackles off the page. It's funny, dramatic, tense, poignant or (in the case of Christopher Walken's monologue) all four at once. Like Short Cuts, it's the kind of movie where you can watch it a number of times and still never totally remember which scene or little gem of dialogue is coming next. Just an all-around masterpiece of directing, writing and casting. Hell, I'm so in love with this movie that I even like the actress who played Bruce Willis' girlfriend and then apparently dropped off the face of the earth. The way she says 'potbelly' is very cute.

Runners-up.....

Dumb And Dumber: To this day, I'm not sure I've ever laughed harder at a scene as I did when Lauren Holly playfully tosses some snow at Jeff Daniels, who responds by whipping a snowball into her face from about three feet away. Daniels even narrows his eyes when he's initially hit. I think it was the eye-narrowing (or the scene with the blind kid's parrot) that put D&D ahead of Ed Wood and Maverick for the last 1994 spot.

The Shawshank Redemption: Well, duh. The Academy followed up its three-great-Best-Pictures-in-a-row streak by being surprisingly on the ball in recognizing 'Shawshank' way before the general public did. The warden is the greatest in a long line of asshole characters played by the great Bob Gunton.

Speed: Or, as Homer called it, 'The Bus That Wouldn't Slow Down.' One of the best pure action movies ever made. I wonder how many hostages were shot by law enforcement officials in the wake of Speed's success?

Trois Couleurs: A bit of an explanation is needed for this one since it's technically three films in one. Polish director Krzysztof "Unplayable Scrabble Rack" Kieslowski released three films ("Blue," "White," and "Red") that work just fine as stand-alone stories but also intertwine into a truly epic overall movie experience. 'Blue' came out in 1993, but since the other two parts were released in 1994, I'm slotting Trois Couleurs into the 1994 category. This trilogy was so good that Kieslowski didn't just announce his retirement after its completion, but he fucking died in 1996 just to reinforce the point. OK, well, he may have been writing scripts at the time of his death, but still, back me up here.

Most notable movie(s) I haven't seen: Four Weddings And A Funeral, Bullets Over Broadway,

Kyle: see, now, when you teased your '94 pick as your (co-)all-time favorite, I guessed that you were a Shawshank man. Pulp, eh? Interesting. You don't seem to talk about it all that much. I like it quite a bit (and absolutely loved it at the time--fun fact: Eric Mayr and I went to see it a the old Westmount theatre, i.e. before it made it's way into the mall, and, since it was rated R, we were convinced that, being fifteen and sixteen, there was a strong chance they were going to ID us (ignoring the fact that I've only ever seen this happen once--and not to me--in the literally hundreds of times I've gone to the movies), so we decked ourselves out in UWO gear. Idiots.), but it's not a movie that I feel compelled to watch all that often anymore. Maybe it has something to do with my disappointment with Tarantino's career arc post-Pulp, maybe it's because I feel it's revealed to me all it's going to reveal, I dunno. If you told me fifteen years ago that Pulp Fiction would almost be an afterthought to me, I'd be stunned, but here we are.

The snowball scene is unbelievable (Daniels is fantastic there, but full credit to Lauren Holly, who really sells it with that horrified look she throws him after she's been hit, only to burst out laughing a second or two later). Still need to see the Colors trilogy.

Oh, man, you haven't seen Four Weddings and a Funeral? It's worth seeing for the single worst line (and single worst line reading) in history alone ("is it raining? I hadn't noticed"), which, in maybe the biggest upset in movie history, was deemed to be only the third cheesiest movie line in history (you can probably guess the other two) in a 2004 poll.


Mark: I love that Eric Mayr is now officially the Bob Sacamano of our list. That's an interesting tidbit about FWAAF --- I would've expected more from a Richard Curtis script. And that snowball scene just gets better after that, since just when you think that Holly laughing will end things, Daniels is still pissed and then proceeds to chase/tackle her down the hill. (p.s. This scene was a lot less funny in real life 15 years later when Chris Brown re-enacted it with Rihanna.)

1995.....Dead Man Walking: A very well-made film that almost necessitates a post-movie discussion. I like that the film doesn't try to point the viewer in any one direction in regards to the death penalty or whether or not Matthew is 'evil.' It merely presents the viewpoints of Matthew, his family, Sister Helen, the police and the victims' parents and lets us choose. Fun casting notes: An unrecognizable R. Lee Ermey seemingly channeling the look of Jerry Lewis as the dead girl's father, plus a couple of great 'before they were famous' roles for Jack Black (as Sean Penn's brother) and Peter Saarsgaard (as the dead boy).

Runners-up.....

The American President: Also known as Aaron Sorkin's dress rehearsal for The West Wing. I still have to remind myself that it's Michael Douglas who's the president in the scenes when it's he and Sheen playing pool. This was the 'fifth entry' on the 1995 list, edging out Get Shorty, Clueless, Se7en and Tommy Boy.

Apollo 13: Just an all-around great piece of filmmaking. Could've and should've been the Oscar winner in 1995, as it was clearly the best the nominees, but the inexplicable Ron Howard snub just seemed to kill its momentum dead and opened the door for the overrated Braveheart.

Heat: On the list of great bank robberies in movie history, the 'Heat' heist is right up there with Bonnie & Clyde, Inside Man, Quick Change and Ernest Goes To Jail. A great movie only slightly marred by the fact that a) the atrocious 'Righteous Kill' really takes the shine off of a De Niro/Pacino pairing, and b) pretty much every line of Pacino's dialogue in 'Heat' has been turned into a running joke by my pal Dave. Then again, it's hard to not laugh as a line like "Cause she's got a great ass, and you've got your head all the way up it!"

Toy Story: Not to detract from this movie's quality, since it is a legit classic, but....check this out. Holy crap. Jim Henson 1, Disney/Pixar 0.

Most notable movie(s) I haven't seen: Twelve Monkeys and Casino, though from what I've heard about the movie, the fact that I've seen Goodfellas is good enough.

Kyle: Somewhat amazingly, I haven't seen Dead Man Walking, so I can't comment. Didn't even realize that Peter Saarsgaard was in it (he's terrific--can they please get him to host SNL again? That Cat Fancy-fabulist sketch, which many people, having not seen it, have more or less accused me of making up, was sheer genius). The only pick I really object to is Heat--a movie that, as long as I can remember, has been lavishly praised for reasons beyond comprehension. Aside from the score (fanfuckingtastic) and the heist scene, I simply do not understand the hype. The thing that bothers me the most is that the film's most objectionable element (Pacino and De Niro facing off) is invariably hailed as the film's high point. You allude to the stilted dialogue above, but I feel like I need to excerpt whole chunks of it to reinforce my point:
Vincent Hanna: You know, we are sitting here, you and I, like a couple of regular fellas. You do what you do, and I do what I gotta do. And now that we've been face to face, if I'm there and I gotta put you away, I won't like it. But I tell you, if it's between you and some poor bastard whose wife you're gonna turn into a widow, brother, you are going down.

Neil McCauley: There is a flip side to that coin. What if you do got me boxed in and I gotta put you down? Cause no matter what, you will not get in my way. We've been face to face, yeah. But I will not hesitate. Not for a second.

Me: [groaning]
I'm like 90% convinced that the Homer-George Bush "trouble...for you" back and forth is based on this. As for you: why so down on Braveheart?

The Toy Story thing: wow. Hello, lawsuit.


Mark: 1. Saarsgard is in it for about a minute and doesn't really have any coherent lines, so it's not exactly his big break. It never made sense to me how people could hear a friend relate some funny bit they heard on TV and then respond with "Oh, you're making that up!" Why would they? What's to be gained by giving credit to a TV show for your own material? Why not just tell the joke yourself?

2. Pacino and De Niro are like cosmetics tainted with Smilex gas. They're fine when used apart from each other, but when combined, they're toxic. If they ever re-team for another film, let's hope they're again separated by 40 years like in Godfather II.

3. Braveheart is overrated in the context of an Oscar-winning Best Picture. It's a perfectly good movie on its own, but a Best Picture? Nyet.

4. Not to be morbid, but do you think Pixar waited until Henson was dead to get working on Toy Story since they figured that nobody else would notice?

1996.....Fargo: This was the no-brainer selection of the list, since as much as I love Pulp Fiction, at least Shawshank and Trois Couleurs were in the ballpark for 1994. 'Fargo' is as close as the Coens have come to a perfect movie. There's something for everyone to love --- heck, even my grandmother would like Fargo. She'd enjoy the Canadian-ness of the humour, in spite of the film being made by Americans and set in Minnesota. Ironically, upon the film's initial release, it seemed as if the only people who didn't like it were a small but vocal segment of hardcore Coen fans who claimed the movie was a case of the Coens selling out to mainstream Hollywood. WTF? I don't recall a lot of crime comedies set in Minnesota and featuring guys being fed to wood chippers flooding the multiplexes back in 1996, but my memory is fogging up in my old age. The film was also responsible for one of my favourite film class essay titles ever, when I claimed that Fargo was 'film blanche' (as opposed to film noir). Is it sad that my creative peak came on an 83-percent paper in 2004? Pop quiz: Cuba Gooding Jr. over William H. Macy for best supporting actor in 1996...worst decision in Oscar history? I mean, you could make the argument that Macy's role wasn't actually a supporting role so he shouldn't have been in the category anyway, but Jesus Christ man, there is no way any sober person could possibly look at both roles and give Cuba the thumbs-up.

Runners-up.....

Hamlet: Kenneth Branagh is one of the hammiest actors going, but his Shakespearian adaptations are as good as they come. This might well be the definitive film version of 'Hamlet' that has ever been made, and it has some of the best set design and art direction you've ever seen, to boot. I love that Branagh was actually nominated for a best adapted screenplay Oscar in spite of the fact that the movie was a 99.8% direct adaptation of Shakespeare's original text. Will Private Ryan fanboys try to claim that the 1998 Best Picture race was actually just a case of a makeup Oscar?

Kingpin: My other three runners-up were pretty clear choices, but 'Kingpin' beat out a number of other good-but-in-some-way-flawed movies (Birdcage, Swingers, Scream, Star Trek: First Contact, Lilies and Trainspotting) for the fifth position. What put Kingpin ahead of these other films? Bill Murray as Big Ern McCracken. Literally every moment he's on-screen is pure gold.

Lone Star: A fantastic, mostly-forgotten film noir/mystery directed by John Sayles and starring Chris Cooper, Kris Kristofferson and Frances McDormand (wow, nice year for Frances). It's the rare film mystery where you can't guess the solution in the first 20 minutes. Hell, you don't even know what the real mystery really is in the first 20 minutes.

The Rock: Hey look, it's Michael Bay's first good movie! Even a broken clock is right twice a day, folks! It's two hours of Nicolas Cage overacting, Sean Connery delivering saucy line after saucy line, and a whole bunch of stuff being blown up. It is awesome. (N.B. Could I have picked a more diverse quintet of films for my 1996 entries?)

Most notable movie(s) I haven't seen: The English Patient, also the most recent Best Picture winner that I haven't seen. I would've seen it long before now were it not for the threatening e-mail I received from Elaine Benes.

Kyle: Fargo is terrific, though I must admit that it was almost ruined for me by the two ladies that sat directly behind me in the theatre that thought Frances McDormand's accent was so hilarious that they laughed at every single thing she said...for two hours. Painful. Thankfully, I caught it on video later...and adored it. The only other snub that comes to mind is Halle Berry's ridiculous performance in Monster's Ball eclipsing Naomi Watts's work in Mulholland Drive (the single best acting performance I've ever seen)...oh, wait, Naomi Watts wasn't nominated for Mulholland Drive. [Bashes head against monitor]

Great call with Hamlet--I'm still not sure how they managed to film that hall of mirrors sequence without us seeing a camera anywhere. It still seems impossible to me. Kingpin, in retrospect, has no business being as funny as it is (how many artifical hand jokes can you make?), but it works every time. Murray's facial expressions during the climactic final match (complete with his hair getting progressively out of control) are timeless. Lone Star (which I really liked) and The Rock (which, aside from the car chase, I did not) in the same sentence, eh? Diverse indeed.


Mark: Note to self, rent Mulholland Drive before we do the 2000 list.

1997.....Jackie Brown: I'm not sure why one gets such relatively little respect or remembrance among Tarantino fans. It's arguably the best display of Tarantino as a filmmaker, as he deftly adapted an Elmore Leonard novel (something that's only been successfully done a few times in Hollywood history) and yet still managed to put his own personal touch on the project. It gets bonus points for reviving the careers of Pam "Inexplicably not nominated for an Oscar" Grier and Robert Forster, and for having one of the more kick-ass soundtracks of recent years.

Runners-up....

Chasing Amy: Subtitled in recent years as 'The One Kevin Smith Movie That Isn't Suddenly Dated As Hell.' Kudos to Smith for building up Silent Bob's first big speech over three movies, and then having it pay off as well as it did. Is there a reason why Joey Lauren Adams never became a bigger star? Besides the voice, that is?

L.A. Confidential: As you may have guessed by now, I'm something of a sucker for a good film noir, mystery or crime thriller. Given that L.A.C. is all three, it was a natural inclusion.

Titanic: The movie so big that it had a backlash against it before it even opened, and then its popularity was a backlash against the backlash, and then it became cool to mock its popularity, so there was a backlash against the backlash against the backlash. BUT, over time, I think people finally realize it as being a great movie, so there's Backlash #4. Whew. And that's not even counting the one-man backlash my buddy Trevor has against the film, as he never saw it during its initial release and has subsequently refused to ever watch it.

Wag The Dog: I am 75% convinced that the entire George W. Bush administration was merely an elaborate sequel to this movie. WTD currently holds a notable place in film history as being the last great movie for both Robert De Niro and Dustin Hoffman.

Most notable movie(s) I haven't seen: Waiting For Guffman. This might be the most inexplicable omission on the entire list. I mean, you could maybe excuse "Schindler's List" on the logic that it's a pretty heavy movie to just casually rent one night or to flip on TV....but what reason is there for not seeing Waiting For Guffman?

Kyle: I haven't agreed with all your picks thus far, but this is the first one I've legitimately hated, because the best thing (by far) about Jackie Brown is the poster. (OK, Forster was pretty good, too. And Bridget Fonda looked great in it.) I just didn't think they're was much to this one, with Tarantino resorting to old techniques (notably: Rashomon-style multiple perspectives), with seriously diminishing returns. Case in point: there's a scene (I think it takes place in the mall parking lot) that QT decides is important enough that we re-visit it three times (well, three times total, so I guess we re-visit it twice), yet we learn absolutely nothing new from these different looks. I found (and find) this infuriating, as it showy for the sake of being showy.

I recall being massively letdown by WTD at the time, but I only watched it the one time, so perhaps I should give it a second chance. No qualms with the other three picks.

wow...Guffman is (as noted) so up your alley, too.


Mark: I enjoy how we're getting into some serious disagreements as we get deeper into the list. We're turning into Siskel & Ebert, except alive and able to speak. [Kyle: (too afraid to say anything)] I think you're exaggerating the 'multiple perspectives' angle, since to my recollection that's the only time it happens in the film. I think it was QT's way of mirroring the fact that Leonard often jumps between different characters' perspectives within scenes in his books, though it's less noticeable there since it's just a jump from one seven-line paragraph to another, not a whole scene change.

Kyle: (1) sorry, the multiple perspective thing only comes up once (didn't mean to imply otherwise), but it's absolutely as unnecessary as I suggested. (2) As for feuding, to quote Mr. Burns: "Well, Simpson, I must say, once you've been through something like that with a person, you never want to see that person again" (you're Simpson in this anecdote, Shuk).

Next up: 1998-2003

Monday, February 23, 2009

"What's next? Something that sounds better than a cassette tape??"

The Best Movies of Our Lives: Part Two, 1986 - 1991

Previously: 1979-1985

Shuk's Picks


1986....Ferris Bueller's Day Off: While all of John Hughes' other "legendary" teen dramas have aged horribly, Ferris Bueller has somehow only become more prescient with each passing year. You could make a good case that it was the forerunner of shows like 90210, Gossip Girl or the O.C. where teenagers carry themselves as virtual adults. Ferris Bueller looks and acts like he's a baby boomer who just happens to be in high school, even down to his bizarrely-old man name. Broderick gets most of the acclaim for the film, but it wouldn't have been nearly as successful without Alan Ruck's should've-been-Oscar-nominated performance as Cameron, Jennifer Grey and her giant nose as bitchy Jeanie Bueller and Jeffrey Jones as the long-suffering Principal Ed Rooney (N.B. I'm legally obliged to mention the fact that Jones was busted for kiddie porn, thus making him a charter member of the Michael Jackson/Chris Benoit 'Am I Allowed To Like This Guy?' club).

Runners-up.....

Big Trouble In Little China: This movie was a childhood signpost to my pals Trev and Dave, who still to this day greet each other with Jack Burton's half-L/half-checkmark hand signal. BTILC is a goofy, goofy, ridiculous, goofy, absurd, stupid movie, but boy is it ever a lot of fun to watch. Jack Burton's killing of the ultimate villain is one of the 10 best deaths in movie history, and easily one of the five funniest.

The Fly: Despite a few third-act problems, this still holds up really well today both as a thriller, and on the FX side of things. You will not believe how friggin' buff that Jeff Goldblum is in this movie. He looks like a nerdy version of Sly Stallone. Also of note is the cameo of Canadian boxing legend George Chuvalo, who plays the guy who gets his hand snapped off in the bar. Amazingly, a shattered hand wouldn't even crack the top five of the worst things that have happened to Chuvalo in real life.

Highlander: This one holds special meaning to the list, as I actually saw it for the first time over at Kyle's house around 2003. The Highlander franchise is one of the more underrated sci-fi universes of recent years, possibly due to the utter failure of the second movie and the fact that Christopher Lambert becomes 10% more of a self-parody each year.

Platoon: A seminal war film, and say what you will about Oliver Stone, but he is certainly the worst director to win two Best Director Oscars. Wait...isn't a compliment supposed to follow a "say what you will about" intro? I'm legally obligated to retell my favourite Platoon anecdote about the time my buddy Trev showed a clip from the movie for a class project in Grade 12 English class. He warns the class that "there is a bit of language in this clip" and then proceeds to show...the attack on the Vietnamese village. If you had listened closely, you could've actually heard everyone's jaws drop right around the scene when Johnny Drama kills that kid. When the clip was over, Trevor turned on the lights and noticed that everyone looked shell-shocked, and Trev himself perhaps just then realized that he picked a somewhat intense scene. Our teacher, Mrs. Spratt, chimed in with perfect comic timing, "So, a little language, eh?" Owned.

(I'd also like to give a special shout-out to Little Shop Of Horrors, the poster of which I had hanging on my bedroom wall as a kid thanks to the kindness of the proprietor of The Movie Shoppe, the old video store at the Byron plaza.)

Notable movie(s) I haven't seen: Hannah and Her Sisters. Gee, were there any other notable 1986 movies that started with the letter 'H'?....oh yeah.....since there is a one million percent chance that Kyle made 'Hoosiers' his top choice for the year, I really should get around to watching it one of these years.

Kyle: Huh. I'm reminded of the Friends episode where Chandler pushes Kathy away by accusing her of sleeping with her co-worker, then comes to his senses and goes to her place to apologize, telling her that it's a good thing, because now they've gotten their first fight out of the way...only he discovers said co-workers pants on the couch, and deduces that they have, indeed, slept together, leading to him blurting out: "well, I think our second fight*...is going to be a big one" (a line which consistently slays me, due in no small part to Matthew Perry's great delivery of it)...because: you haven't fucking seen Hoosiers? That's a real slap in the face (did you just get a chill down your spine??). I'm flabbergasted. I'm basically going to insist that you hop in your car, drive to my parents' place, and grab one of my three copies from the basement.

All of that said, great call with Ferris Bueller--just a tremendous movie. Also, while I'll always be grateful to the Movie Shoppe for providing me with posters for my room (though I never seemed to get any first-rate stuff, exhibit A being my Crooklyn poster), I'm still holding a grudge against those guys for closing up shop without giving anyone notice. Why, you ask? Because we'd pre-paid for twenty movies (ordinarily pretty handy, since I could bike down and pick one up on my dad's dime), only used six or so, and lost out on the remaining fourteen. Screw this foreclosure crisis, I demand an immediate Congressional investigation into the legality of said movie scheme!


* Note: for the sake of this bit, let's call my Ghostbusters omission fight #1.

Mark: Outstanding Friends reference. Ah, Paget Brewster. So underrated.

1987....The Princess Bride: It's hard to describe 'Princess Bride' to someone who hasn't seen it. It's a very funny romance, but it's not a romantic comedy. It's not exactly a satirical fairy tale, since there is some very genuine emotion throughout. It's a wholly unique entity unto itself and thus a movie that will stand the test of times for generations to come. It's also notable for being one of the all-time best Six Degrees Of Kevin Bacon movies that doesn't actually star Kevin Bacon. Seriously, when you have a cast that includes everyone from Billy Crystal to Fred Savage to Chris Guest to Andre the Giant, that's a movie that can link a lot of actors.

Runners-up......

The Last Emperor: A surprisingly gripping epic highlighted by some absolutely gorgeous photography from legendary Vittorio Storaro. Fun fact: David Byrne (that's right, Talking Heads David Byrne) won an Oscar for co-writing the musical score. Other fun fact: if you type 'Last Emperor' into Wikipedia, it takes you to an entry about a rapper who I have literally never heard of. Should this guy get dibs over a Best Picture winner? Hell no.

Planes, Trains & Automobiles: Roger Ebert has a beautiful essay about this film in his 'Great Movies' collection where he notes that PT&A seemed to be a simple comedy the first time he saw it, but it grew on him over time to become one of the staples of his family's Thanksgiving holiday.

Predator: Second-best Schwarzenegger movie ever, and I felt that Arnie deserved to be mentioned for a year in which he made both this and another top-5 Arnold classic, 'The Running Man.' In a twist of fate that can only be described as bizarre, 'Predator' is perhaps best remembered today as the answer to the trivia question, "What action movie starred two future U.S. state governors?" PLUS Sonny Landham ran for governor of Kentucky in 2002 as well, so we could've had a trio. What I'm trying to say is that Carl Weathers needs to start a PAC immediately. "Weathers 2010: Baby, You Got A Stew Goin'!"

Roxanne: A very funny modern retelling of 'Cyrano de Bergerac' starring Steve Martin. Notable for a Hall of Fame scene where Martin's nose is mocked by a guy in a bar, followed by Martin making fun of the guy's poor quality of joke and promptly rattling off 20 hilarious nose jokes at his own expense. Look at this and look at Pink Panther 2, and then wonder what the hell happened to Steve Martin. (Note: I may re-state this for every other Steve Martin movies on this list).

Notable movie(s) I haven't seen: Broadcast News, House of Games, Moonstruck, Wall Street, and though I technically have seen it before, I haven't seen Robocop in so long that I've forgotten most of the film aside from the scene where Peter Weller is eviscerated and a few of Kurtwood Smith's more psychotic lines.

Kyle: wow...only one pic in common (The Princess Bride) between the two of us--kinda surprising. I caught the last hour of TPB on AMC about two months ago (if we ever had a sponsor for these movie things, it should really be AMC, since they seem to air about 65% of our 80s and early 90s selections on an endless loop), and it reminded me that I really should re-watch the whole movie at least once a year. Seems a shame that, twenty years later, the only lines I quote routinely (from this highly quotable film) are "inconceivable" and "only an Australian..." (for my money: the best bit in the movie).

Feel like I missed boat with John Candy, since I don't particularly love him in anything...and I can't really explain why. And: I use that Carl Weathers line all the time with Carrie...and she never gets it, even though I (semi-)patiently explain its roots every time.


1988.....A Fish Called Wanda: In short, the funniest movie I've ever seen, and probably my favourite movie of all time (it's neck-and-neck with my 1994 selection, which you'll see in our upcoming installment). Perfectly written, perfectly acted and the perfect example of a classic character-and-situation based British comedy. It is an absolute crime that Kevin Kline didn't get nomina....wait a minute, Kline WON the Oscar?! Holy crap! That was probably the single most deserving Oscar awarded during the entire 1980's. Kline is indescribably funny as lunatic/not-at all-stupid-crook Otto West.

Runners-up.....(You may notice that I've listed eight runners-up instead of the usual four. This is because Kyle and I agreed on a clause that we're calling the "We're Gonna Need A Bigger Boat" rule. We're each allowed up to three years where we can expand our number of honourable mentions past the usual limit, with a final cap of 10. Kyle used his first card for his 1984 entry, and I'm cashing in my first card now, since 1988 was a helluva year.)

The Accidental Tourist: I'm a big Anne Tyler fan, and this is by far the best adaptation of one of her difficult-to-film novels. The Accidental Tourist is also a great suggestion for screwing someone over in charades.

Die Hard: High in the running for best action movie ever made. Alan Rickman was jobbed out of an Oscar nomination. My favourite anecdote about this film is a tie between these two: 1) Rickman's famous facial expression when he's falling from the building was created when the stunt director told Rickman he'd let go of him on the count of three, and then let him go at the count of one, and 2) for years after Die Hard, similar common-man-in-tough-situation thrillers were pitched to Hollywood studios as 'Die Hard on a boat' or 'Die Hard on a plane,' etc. This culminated in a legendary pitch where a young screenwriter completely un-ironically tried to sell his script as 'Die Hard in an office building.'

The Last Temptation Of Christ: Maybe this is my agnosticism talking, but I fail to see how a devout religious person could be anything but moved by this film. Martin Scorsese made a brilliant account of Jesus' struggles to live up to his divine birthright and his avoidance of sin, and ended up being crapped on by conservative religious groups. Scorsese should've tried to get some endorsements from the Judean People's Front (or, failing that, the People's Front of Judea).

The Naked Gun: The first time you watch this movie, you'll think it's the funniest thing you've ever seen. Some parts of it get corny the second time around, but man, that whole sequence at the Dodgers game is still pure gold from start to finish. Favourite gag: for me it's either the scoreboard blooper involving the tiger, Frank walking around the wall as he enters the lab, or "Hey, it's Enrico Palazzo!"

Rain Man: Easily Tom Cruise's best of his "punk pretty boy who grows up" roles, and a truly great performance from Dustin Hoffman. Hoffman's performance has been parodied so much over the years that you forget just how good he was in this movie.

Rattle & Hum: There was pretty much no chance I was going to omit U2's concert movie. As an actual "concert movie" it's surprisingly pointless, but hey, it's still 100 minutes of live U2 songs. Highlights include the seminal version of 'Sunday Bloody Sunday' and great renditions of 'Bad,' 'Running To Stand Still' and 'With Or Without You.'

The Thin Blue Line: This probably would've been #1 in most other years. An absolutely riveting documentary investigating the murder of a Texas police officer in 1976. The movie did nothing less than free an innocent man from a life sentence and basically pioneer the crime-reenactment genre as we know it.

Who Framed Roger Rabbit?: Maybe a little dated today, but the concept of a feature-length movie mixing both live-action and animation was absolutely state-of-the-art back in 1988. This movie was the talk of the schoolyard in its day, both for its concept and for the earth-shattering fact that Disney characters and Looney Tunes characters would be sharing the screen together! Gadzooks! Christopher Lloyd was the (human) MVP of the movie for being completely terrifying every moment he's on the screen, climaxing in the immortal "I talked just....like.....THIS" scene.

Most notable movie(s) I haven't seen: Bull Durham, which seems impossible given how big of a baseball fan I am. I've also never seen 'Midnight Run,' which I'm told is a comedy classic.

Kyle: ...now this is more like it. I think you hit on four of my five with your selections (and the one you missed--Bull Durham--you've, inexplicably, never seen...again: how is this possible?). But now I'm going to seem like a huge doucher, because I'm going to admit that I've never seen AFCW in its entirety, which is also pretty unforgivable. We should probably move on.

A Thin Blue Line
is on my "to see" list, since I really like Errol Morris's work. Love the Die Hard story. Do concert movies ever have a point? (Lone exception: Pink Floyd's The Wall, where I believe the point was to freak the shit out of stoners at four in the morning.) Finally, as for Accidental Tourist, I feel like this is very doable in charades (note: I pride myself on my charades ability, and once got a crowd in Korea--fine, they were American, but we were in Korea--to get Moulin Rouge in under five seconds; spoiler: it involved me acting like a cow and milking myself): (1) movie gesture; (2) three words; (3) first word: small gesture; (4) third word: pretend like you're unfolding a map, look puzzled, point at map, point at something in the distance, simulate taking photos; (5) second word: trip over something, or pretend as if you've just bumped into someone and do the hand apology (simulating a car accident would also probably work).

Hey did I just invent a new game (word charades)?


Mark: You gave me hell over not seeing Hoosiers and you haven't seen A Fish Called Wanda?! Our *third* fight is going to be a doozy.

1989.....Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade: In a year filled with great movies, 'Last Crusade' got the nod based on the fact that if I lined it up with all of my runners-up and had to pick just one to watch, it would be my choice. There's just too much goodness to ignore: the great tank chase/battle sequence, 'X marks the spot,' River Phoenix's uncanny channeling of Harrison Ford, the great circus train chase at the beginning, the origin of both Indy's hat and his nickname, "Zis is how ve say goodbye in Germany," the boat chase through the Venice canals, "No ticket," the genuinely chill-inducing scene in the Grail Chamber that is capped off with "He chose...poorly," and finally, every single word that came out of Sean Connery's mouth. He and Ford were perfect as father and son despite being roughly five days apart in actual age. This was a perfect film to cap off the Indy saga.....wait, what Crystal Skull movie? Sorry, I don't know what you're talking about.

Runners-up.....(cash-in number two!)

Back To The Future II: Maybe a little guilty of naval-gazing at times, but it manages to stay just un-complicated enough to add layers to the original without going totally overboard. I'm just disappointed that 2015 is only six years away, and we're no closer to hoverboards than we were in 1985. Get on it, Hasbro and/or Rand Corporation!

Batman: The one downside to the success of the Nolan/Bale Batman films is that Tim Burton's two Bat-pictures have been retroactively lumped together with Joel Schumacher's two abominations. Talk about unfair; Burton's 'Batman' still holds up as a very cool adaptation of the comic, though still very much within a comic-book mindset.

Do The Right Thing: Spike Lee's answer to Orson Welles syndrome, where the first movie (ok, technically not his *first* movie, but his first major movie) is such a masterpiece that he spent the rest of his career trying to live up to it. I guess to continue this analogy, 'Inside Man' becomes 'Touch Of Evil' and Mars Blackmon becomes the Paul Masson wine commercials. If Lee makes a cameo in Transformers 2, I'm onto something. DTRT was years before its time and yet completely of its time as one of the best-ever films about race and community relations.

Field of Dreams: The cliche of guys not marrying women if they don't like 'Field Of Dreams' is probably a bit overdone but....well, I dunno, I'm hesitant to even risk it. James Earl Jones' "Baseball is the constant." speech is slightly comical now in the wake of the 1994 players' strike, but it still raises some big-time goosebumps. Has anyone been able to ascertain why Kevin Costner is only good when playing athletes? And, while we're answering questions, can someone explain to me why James Earl Jones wasn't a slam-dunk Best Supporting Actor winner (or even a nominee) in 1989?

Jesus Of Montreal: Yay Canadian content! Great film about actors performing a passion play in and around the city of Montreal, and the guy playing Jesus getting somewhat carried away in his role. The end twist involving the 'resurrection' (I wouldn't dream of revealing it here) is both extremely clever and moving.

Road House: The definition of 80's cheesy unintentional comedy. I will drop what I'm doing and watch RH whenever it comes on. My favourite Road House part was, as I stated in a past post, "that Swayze and Brad Wesley lived literally 50 damn yards away from each other. Road House is perfect as it is, but it would've been even more perfect with more scenes of Swayze and Wesley shaking their fists at each other across the pond."

When Harry Met Sally: This one is pretty fresh in my mind since I saw it about a month ago. It would've placed anyway, but the recent viewing just reenforced the fact that this is one of the truly good romantic comedies. Meg Ryan at her peak, Billy Crystal at his likable-guy peak before he became insufferable (is Crystal a fan of both NYC baseball teams? He's a sports bigamist too? Jesus) and I had forgotten how funny Bruno Kirby and Carrie Fisher are as Harry/Sally's respective best friends. And the orgasm scene is STILL funny.

Most notable movie(s) I haven't seen: Crimes & Misdemeanors, Say Anything, Driving Miss Daisy.

Kyle: Great call with Last Crusade. I love that movie. Whoever came up with the Grail tests at the end (please don't be George Lucas, please don't be George Lucas...) is a fucking genius.

Another great call with your Lee-Welles comparison--I never would of thought of that. I feel like Spike should gain 150 pounds to really sell it (this is far more likely to happen if he relinquishes his highly visible Knicks seasons' tickets...which is unlikely to occur.) Surprisingly, I've yet to see
Road House--this despite paying every month for the Road House network (Peachtree TV). Less surprisingly, I haven't seen Jesus of Montreal either. The only thing that appears out of place is BTTF2, which does not hold up very well (and, yeah, I apply this test fairly inconsistently...going so far as to avoid movies that I like if I'm afraid they'll appear dated today--see WFRR? Still...) My buddy Eric Mayr (yes, the one that danced on his knees at the wedding) and I would often discuss just how many DeLoreans exist at any given time in BTTF2--I think it's gotta be at least four. Thoughts?

Mark: Well, when they're back in 1955, two exist (the one they're using for the BTTF1 scenario and the BTTF2 one). I guess two would exist in 2015 (the one they're using and the DeLorean that exists in the present that presumably hadn't been destroyed yet). So that is indeed four, but spread out over two time periods...oh, I guess by the end of the film, Doc has one in 1885 and Marty has the other one in 1955. So is that two more to the overall total? Hey, why is my nose bleeding? Is that Jeremy Davies? *faints*

1990....Edward Scissorhands: I'm not sure if it's necessarily Tim Burton's best work, but 'Scissorhands' is the film I'd pick as the best example of what Burton's movies are all about. This was Depp's first real breakout role, and actually a surprisingly underrated one given his later career. Though covered in makeup and latex, Depp never leaves any doubt as to what Edward is feeling. The payoff scene of Edward creating the snow with his carving is arguably the best visual of Burton's career, rivaled only by the shot of Ewan McGregor in the field of flowers in 'Big Fish.'

Runners-up....

Back To The Future III: After the complications of BTTF3, Zemeckis ends the trilogy with a more straight-forward time travel story in the Old West. Kyle, I'm sure that Carrie has been this movie, what's her rating of Michael J. Fox and Lea Thompson's Irish accents, on a scale of 1 to 10? Negative eight?

Goodfellas: Tough call ranking this one behind 'Scissorhands,' but given that Goodfellas lost the Oscar to Dances With Wolves, coming in second behind a Tim Burton fantasy is much easier to swallow. One of my old film professors once spent a full hour on a lecture about the famous 'Henry enters the nightclub' tracking shot and were it not for time constraints could've gone on for easily another 60 minutes.

The Grifters: Great con man movie that, unlike virtually every other con man movie in history, doesn't rely on an easy-to-predict plot twist of who's really trying to rip off who. Includes a very good non-Cusackian role from John Cusack and arguably Annette Bening's best performance ever. Plus, the screenplay is by Donald E. Westlake, one of my favourite authors.

Miller's Crossing: Man, I found room for three gangster movies from 1990 and NONE of them were Dick Tracy? That movie was a staple of my childhood! Sure, "Miller's Crossing" is objectively better in every way, but...uh...Dustin Hoffman as Mumbles! Lack of stunt-casting aside, Miller's Crossing is awesome. I'd argue it's the first real home run from the Coens, though I haven't seen 'Raising Arizona.' John Turturro's entire stretch of dialogue when Gabriel Byrne is taking him into the woods to get shot is a masterpiece of speech. He goes from sad to pathetic to hilarious because he just never shuts up. It loses a few points for the lackluster job done by the usually-great Marcia Gay Harden. She plays a femme fatale who's allegedly so alluring that two otherwise reasonable men are willing to plunge the city into a gang war just to spare her brother. In the words of Michael Bluth: her?

Most notable movie(s) I haven't seen: Misery, Dances With Wolves, Ghost, Pretty Woman. Boy, did I miss the boat some of the big movies of 1990 or what?

Kyle: somehow, we both discussed Edward Scissorhands at length and neither of us mentioned the truly excellent Seinfeld episode where it played a prominent role (the one with the barbers). Disappointing. If it's not Burton's best work, what is? Ed Wood and Batman are certainly in the discussion (Big Fish, despite its best efforts, is decidedly not), but I feel ES has held up the best.

Goodfellas happened to be on CTV last night at two in the morning. I hopped on right when Henry was in jail for the first time, and (predictably) saw it through all the way to the end. Phenomenal movie. Though the transition from Pesci getting shot to Henry being full-blown paranoiac (though, technically, he's not so much paranoid about the helicopters as exactly right) cokehead never stops being jarring. It's almost as if Scorcese was behind the camera, then checked his watch (obviously I have no idea how movies work...) and said "Jesus, we're already at the 110 minute mark! I gotta wind this thing down! Scrap pages 190 through 235 of the script.") As for Marcia Gay Harden...I'm starting to wonder if she's secretly terrible. For every movie she's great in (Pollock and, I guess, Mystic River) she really hams it up in another (The Hoax, The Mist). And, presently, she's chewing scenery on Damages.

And I asked Carrie about the accents in BTTF3. Her response was: "well...I don't actually remember the accents, but I assume they were horrible." So there.

Mark: I'd add Sweeney Todd and maybe Pee Wee to the best-of-Burton debate. Sleepy Hollow isn't the best, but it's underrated. Also, the general rule of thumb in script-writing is one page equals one minute of screentime, so unless Scorsese was replaced by Oliver Stone, I don't think a page 235 was a factor.

1991....The Silence Of The Lambs: It's interesting to note that while 'Silence' spawned a new wave of psychological horror/procedurals, it didn't exactly spawn the kind of copycat imitators that other singular films (i.e. Pulp Fiction) did. That's because TSOTL is just a weird movie from start to finish. It's oddly shot*, the story takes more than a few strange turns-- some credit goes to Thomas Harris' novel on this point, though it's not as satisfying as the film is --and there is never any sense of closure, even when Buffalo Bill is captured. The whole film is an exercise in escalating unsettledness. What else can be said at this point about the great Anthony Hopkins? Just look at the difference between Lecter here and Lecter as played by Brian Cox (a good actor in his own right) in 1988's "Manhunter," the original version of 'Red Dragon.' Hopkins took what was a fairly creepy character in the hands of a good actor and elevated it to a legendary screen villain. Fun fact: Hopkins only has 16 minutes of screentime in the movie. Talk about doing more with less. [Kyle: wow...he could've won Best Supporting Actress twice in 1999!]

* = or, in a way, familiarly shot for fans of Jonathan Demme. You'll notice that some of the low-angle and slightly off-kiltered close-ups that Demme used to frame Lecter were first used in Stop Making Sense (like here). Psycho Killer, indeed.

Runners-up.....

Beauty And The Beast: For my money, still the best of the new-age Disney cartoons. I think the Gaston character is currently appearing on the new season of Survivor under the name 'Coach.'

Defending Your Life: A mostly-forgotten comedy by the underrated Albert Brooks, about a lawyer who dies and then must literally stand on trial in the afterlife in order to get into heaven. Most of the humour comes from the fact that 'Purgatory' is depicted as, basically, a Florida retirement community.

The Fisher King: Robin Williams and the most underrated actor of the last 20 years Jeff Bridges make their list debuts. Terry Gilliam's most fully satisfying feature film.

Terminator 2: One of the five best action movies ever made. Holds up very well in spite of the early 90's release; the FX are as cool as ever, and the only real scene that dates it is John Connor's punk buddy's mullet ("Yeah!"). Like any great thriller, it saves its "Okay, this just got silly" moment for the very end when Arnold shoots a thumbs-up before going into the molten lava.

Most notable movie(s) I haven't seen: Barton Fink, Grand Canyon, Thelma & Louise. Maybe I could save time by seeing the mash-up of all three, wherein Thelma & Louise's husbands are both such finks are it forces them to drive into the Grand Canyon.

Kyle: good pick (it's my #2). Probably the all-time best example of "we should've left well enough alone" (I though Hannibal was seriously awful...though the Red Dragon remake was pretty solid). Over/under of a movie sweeping Best Actor, Actress, Picture, and Director again: 18.5 years. Place your bets (I'm thinking that Leaving Las Vegas got closest). It wouldn't surprise me if it never happened again.

Fisher King...meh. Do you really think it's better than
Twelve Monkeys? That might be the upset of the series. I don't think I've laughed at something Albert Brooks has said or done since...actually, I don't know if I ever have* (but I've only seen about four minutes of DYL).

Finally: do you know how I know you're gay? You include Disney movies in your top five. (Kidding...sort of. I always preferred Aladdin.)

* = The Simpsons Movie

Mark: Just to add to the difficulty for TSOTL, they also won the Best Screenplay award. It, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and It Happened One Night are the only three films to pull off the five-for-five. So I'd guess that if another movie is going to do it, it'll have to have a long title.

Kyle's Picks (1986 - 1991)

Have to say: for our first post, I found it extremely difficult to limit myself to five movies (hence my 1984 entry, which consisted of seven films), but this time through, I felt I was really grasping at straws. Nevertheless....

1986: Hoosiers: I'll start with my most predictable pick of, not only this part, but the entire series. Enter Hoosiers, my all-time favorite movie. Eight things I love about it: the soundtrack (done by Jerry Goldsmith--for whatever reason, I could never get my hands on a CD version of it, so I resorted to recording it onto a tape with my ghettoblaster, then--of course--playing the tape over and over again while I shot baskets outside...my Ghostbusters stick moment it would seem); the scene where Coach Dale unconvincingly tries to convince Jimmy to play and Jimmy goes something like 16 for 17 (missing only his final shot); "one thing: I play, coach stays. He goes, I go"; the five minute montage that ensues (with Jimmy joining the team), which is pretty much the most thrilling thing ever; the fact that, when I watched this in the theatre when I was seven I was convinced they were going to lose the state semifinal (the one where Ollie comes in and grannies the winning FT); when Coach Dale gets them to measure the dimensions at the seemingly massive Fieldhouse where the state final was to be played (chill); every second of the state championship game (which is brilliantly edited); and "I love you guys." (Hold on, I'm going to cue it up again.) When Jimmy hits that jumper in the state championship, I cry every single time...and I'm not even slightly ashamed to admit it.

That this movie finished second behind Bull Durham in the best sports movie ever poll on ESPN should have been ESPN's cue to stop covering sports forever. An absolute fucking travesty that. Anyway, I'm officially blathering, so we should probably move on, but I'll leave you with this question, Shuk: what's the second best basketball movie ever? (And, no, High School Musical doesn't count.) It's almost certainly Hoop Dreams, but if we're excluding documentaries, I'd argue that it's not White Man Can't Jump or Above the Rim (though the latter is extremely watchable), but rather the criminally underrated Love and Basketball, featuring Steelers coach Mike Tomlin.

Mark: No love for 'Blue Chips'? C'mon, Bob Cousy hit all of those free throws take after take! Seriously, I'd toss an actual vote towards Spike Lee's "He Got Game," and a semi-serious vote towards that stalwart from your previous list, 'Teen Wolf.'

Kyle: Blue Chips, game footage aside (and the ten minute sequence where Nick Nolte recruits his star class) is pretty terrible...and He Got Game is basically one great scene (the Allen-Washington one-on-one game) sandwiched between 110 minutes of crap (and that's leaving aside the preposterously poor ending). Teen Wolf is up there, but I'm standing by my original answer(s).

Other Nominees...

Ferris Bueller's Day Off: There's long been a story (quite possibly apocryphal) that, upon seeing this movie, Jack Nicholson seriously contemplated retiring after seeing this movie (reasoning that, if this was the kind of movie people wanted to see, he couldn't provide/had no interest in providing that), which has struck me as somewhat of a hysterical overreaction. Screw The Breakfast Club (which has always struck me as incredibly artificial...and not in a funny way like Ferris) and Sixteen Candles (I'm not a girl!), FBDO has always been the quintessential high school movie for me. Some fun facts about the movie: did you know that Ferris was supposed to have a younger brother and sister in the movie, but they cut it out for time? Or that Broderick was nominated for a Golden Globe for his work here? (That, some fifteen years later, Broderick went back and basically took on the role of Mr. Rooney in the suberb Election? Genius.)

Stand By Me
: great movie. Happy to report that, having seen it less than a month ago, it's aged much better than you might expect. Not much else to say (does anyone not love this film?), so let's focus for a second on the sheer awesomeness of Stephen King's Different Seasons, a novella which contained the stories that were adapted into The Shawshank Redemption, Stand by Me, and Apt Pupil. (The fourth story, incidentally, is "The Breathing Method," and it's so profoundly stupid--short version: a mother being decapitated while giving birth plays a prominent role--that it's safe to say King isn't going to go 4 for 4 here.) Anyway, I realize that Apt Pupil isn't much of a movie, but the story itself is, I assure you, spectacular. So, yeah, not a bad book.

Platoon:
I wonder how Oliver Stone feels about his (arguably) most accomplished film (though you could probably make a case--and I will--that this should really be JFK) is more or less remembered for its moving score ("Adagio for Strings"--which, it turns out, was actually written in the 1930s...oh) ...and not much else. Which is kind of a shame, because although Platoon doesn't exactly re-invent the cinematic wheel (good vs. evil! In the form of sergeants! You'll never guess how it pla--oh, you figured it out? OK.) , it's awfully engaging.


Aliens: I recall enjoying this one much more than the first, which I believe puts me in a distinct minority.

movie from 1986 that I probably should've seen by now: The Fly (one of Carrie's favorites)

Mark: Jack Nicholson, in 1987, appeared in The Witches of Eastwick, so he's not exactly the best barometer for high-quality motion pictures. As for Stand By Me, I totally forgot about it in my list, quite possibly because I haven't see the movie in at least 18 years. That's the one where Jack Bauer kills a terrorist in the woods and some children happen upon the body before it's eaten by a cougar, and the kids are then frightened by a survivalist (Kevin Dillon), right?

Kyle: I think so...but one of the kids also gets amnesia...and radiation poisoning...and a nerve gas attack. (Yeah, I really beat that one to death. Sorry.)

1987: Full Metal Jacket: huh. This is, at best, Kubrick's 6th or 7th strongest film (trailing the obvious big three--Clockwork, 2001, and Strangelove--plus The Shining, but also probably Lolita and The Killers). That might not seem especially damning, given how talented Kubrick was, but I'll also add this: I'm not even particularly fond of FMJ. (All of this, of course, points to 1987 being a particularly weak movie year.) Anyway...back to Jacket: the first section is spectacular (with Vincent D'Onofrio, Matthew Modine, and R. Lee Ermey acting their guts out), but the second part (which, when it arrives, is totally--and deliberately--jarring) is markedly less interesting. Still, it looks fantastic. That Kubrick was able to make coastal England look like a bombed-out Vietnam is, of course, staggering. But let's set that aside. The real marvel is the basic training footage. Note in particular the long tracking shots (used throughout the training scenes) where Ermey (as Gunnery Sergeant Hartman) berates his men. Or the looooong stationary shots when Pyle is singled out by Hartman (there's also one where it's just Pyle gazing at something seemingly just off camera, and it's clear that he's slowly unraveling). Finally, there's the use of shadow and light during Pyle's meltdown, which makes a disturbing scene that much more horrifying. So, yeah, I've kind of talked myself into this pick.

Other nominees...

The Princess Bride: I don't think I love this movie as much as most (the god-awful Scrubs episode dedicated to it didn't help), but I still love it.

The Untouchables: I was going to say that this movie has the dubious distinction of being the only Brian de Palma directed film that I actually like, but I forgot about Casualties of War (incredibly disturbing...and probably would've been better if Michael J. Fox decided to play it as the Wolf, but still pretty good), Carrie (awesome) and Mission: Impossible (awesome), so never mind. Still...how the hell is he a famous director? This is baffling. Five good movies in 49 years (I'm spotting you Blow Out)? His lifetime achievement montage is going to be incredibly uncomfortable (or: 45 seconds long).

OK, but there's no denying that this is one of his better efforts. Fun (spoilerish) fact about the film: Any police officer seen drinking alcohol on-screen in this film is killed (h/t imdb). Never noticed that. Also (hilariously), John Candy was the studio's first choice to play Capone.

House of Cards: Mamet's first movie. Saw this not too long ago and it's...pretty good (again: 1987 = weak). I'm positive it'd be better with anyone other than Lindsay Crouse (aka Buffy's prof that worked for the Initiative in season four) in the lead role, who is just so awful (is it possible to be both wooden and robotic in a performance? If so, she is), that it has to be seen to be believed. She's spectacularly bad. An absolute career-killer. The other thing is, while this may have been a cutting edge con man movie in 1987, it has not aged particularly well. The twist (when it comes) is so obvious that you'll only be shocked if you haven't seen...any of the following: Matchstick Men, The Grifters, The Game, Heist, The Score, all of Sawyer's flashbacks, or the episode where Gary and Sam convinced the gang at Cheers that the Old Town Tavern was being run by a gangster. (I was convinced that the twist itself was a twist. Alas, no. It was just blatantly telegraphed.) That said, I'd probably watch Joe Mantegna do his taxes for 105 minutes, so I'm giving it a thumbs-up (and the first thirty minutes are super).

Raising Arizona: this film--a perfectly serviceable if unmemorable outing by the Coen Brothers--is basically a protest vote against the incredibly overrated Wall Street. That is all. movie from 1987 that I probably should've seen by now: Empire of the Sun or Broadcast News

Mark: I'd be interested in taking the stopwatch to FMJ and timing exactly how long the boot camp segment lasts. My vague recollection is that it lasts a little over an hour, and the war sequence lasts the remaining 50 minutes of the movie. Honestly, Kubrick should've just endeavored to stretch the training portion to 90 minutes and just made that the whole movie, since the war sequence is wholly unnecessary and tacked-on. I don't know if Kubrick just felt that taking years to make a 90-minute film wouldn't have been worth it or what. Fun fact: R. Lee Ermey was hired as an advisor for the film, but ended up playing the role of Sgt. Hartman based on an audition tape wherein Ermey improvised 15 minutes' worth of original insults.

Re: House Of Cards. I enjoy most of Mamet's plays/films, but I'd argue that his greatest flaw is that he generally writes female characters very poorly. Then, compounding the problem, he does a fairly poor job of casting these roles in his films so he can't even salvage the problem with a good actress (his wife, the terrible Rebecca Pidgeon, has come close to ruining many a Mamet film). [And the woman Mamet divorced to marry Mrs. Pidgeon? None other than the aforementioned Lindsay Crouse.]

Re: De Palma. He holds a special place in the heart of many film theorists, as he is widely considered to the most derivative director of the last 30 years. He steals, copies and 'pays homage to' (his take on it) many shots and filming ideas from countless better films without an original idea of his own. De Palma is the P. Diddy of directing. Oh, btw, John Candy would've gotten an Oscar nomination if he had played Capone. There is no limit to my appreciation for John Candy's talent. That guy was an acting machine just waiting to explode (unfortunately, his heart exploded first).


Kyle: lots of good trivia from FMJ, including the fact that, mid-shoot, Ermey nearly died in a car accident, forcing them to delay filming for several weeks. (Bonus points, too, for Ermey playing House's dad and the Janitor's dad on Scrubs.) Anyway, I feel like you should go back and re-watch FMJ, since it hangs together in the second half rather better than you might have remembered (it's far more nuanced than, say, Platoon). Plus: Adam Baldwin (!) plays Animal Mother.

1988: Big: just a wonderful movie. I hope that when Tom Hanks retires he gets his due for his performance here, because he's pitch-perfect. (Remind me again why he doesn't do comedies anymore?) No one else (in 1988) could've played the part the way Hanks did. (I know he was nominated for Best Actor at the time, but I feel like Big is often dismissed as "minor Hanks"). All of which makes this following factoid all the more interesting: Hanks was initially offered the part, but turned it down. At this point, the part was offered to (wait for it...) Robert DeNiro (!?!)...and we'd likely still be discussing the scene where Billy inexplicably beats a man in his office to death for stealing his drink box were it not for the fact that DeNiro asked for a ridiculous $6 million for the part (the film was ultimately made for about $18 million). Hanks ended up being available...and made a third of what DeNiro sought. So...yeah. Wild, no?

As much as it pains me to give Penny Marshall any credit whatsoever, her tactic to: "give star Tom Hanks an idea of how a 12 year-old would behave, director Penny Marshall filmed each "grown-up" scene with David Moscow (Young Josh) playing Tom Hanks's part, who then copied David Moscow's behavior" (h/t imdb) was right on the money. Beyond that, the movie doesn't require much dissection, so I'll close with this: Elizabeth Perkins = statutory rapist? Probably best there wasn't a sequel.

Mark: Wait a minute, so Hanks just copied the kid's actions? That doesn't seem terribly fair. That's the 1980's equivalent of "Depp based his whole performance off of Keith Richards." If De Niro had been able to pull off this role, that would've shot him into the upper tier of great actors, rather than peaking in the second tier. And, finally, I've never seen Big. Oops.

Kyle: Wow (the Big thing and the De Niro thing). I would certain qualify as a De Niro doubter (wait until 1995, when I shit all over the vastly overrated Heat), but even I think old Bobby is first tier. Godfather II, Taxi Driver, Mean Streets, The Deer Hunter (which, incidentally, I hate), Raging Bull, The King of Comedy, The Mission, Untouchables, Goodfellas, Midnight Run, Awakenings, and This Boy's Life? That's not bad. That he hasn't been in anything decent since Meet the Parents (nine years ago)--aside, interestingly enough, from his brief appearance in the very good (if overlong) The Good Shepherd, which he also directed--certainly works against him, but he's gotta be top tier.

Other nominees...

Die Hard: was tempted to make this my #1 for '88, but it's probably a bit too one note for that (says the guy that picked Hoosiers for 1986). Still, Die Hard remains totally awesome.

Rain Man: if you're like me, you probably remember the kick-ass blackjack montage, Hoffman and Cruise driving in that convertible, the K-mart reference, the People's Court reference, Hoffman's meltdown re: the bathtub, the toothpick scene, and the thing with the jukebox...and that's probably it. Case in point: do you remember why Cruise is driving Hoffman across the country? Me neither (I looked it up: it's to meet with Cruise's lawyers). Doesn't make it a bad movie, just one that, in retrospect, doesn't amount to a whole lot. There's no there there.

(Also, somewhat inexplicably, I own this soundtrack--instrumental only--on vinyl. Like: I actually made a point of going out and buying it.)

The Naked Gun: afraid to watch this again, for fear that it's secretly dreadful...but, my God, was it ever funny twenty years ago.

Who Framed Roger Rabbit?:
see explanation for previous nominee. (Am I wrong in thinking that this movie was remarkably mature--and I'm not even talking about the LaserDisc version, where, if you watch it in slow motion, you can see Jessica Rabbit's naughty bits in places--for a "kids" movie? I would love to see a feature in Psychology Today comparing movies we watched as kids--Gremlins, WFRR?, Temple of Doom--to the movies kids today watch--the Disney and Pixar catalogue, SpongeBob, etc.--and then a determination of how much more fucked up we are than the current generation as a result.)

Bull Durham: lots of fun, and I'm willing to acknowledge as much, so long as people admit that it's a cute romcom...that just so happens to feature baseball players...and not the other way around ...and not the other way around. Case in point: the scene with the mound visit where the players and coaches are discussing what a suitable wedding gift is? Delightful...but would never in a million years happen in an actual baseball game. Am I being petty? Absolutely! But I'm also not wrong.

movie from 1988 that I probably should've seen by now: Dangerous Liasons...also: J'Accuzzi.

Mark: Wait a minute, Die Hard is one-note?! It's an action movie! How many notes does it need? Also, in regards to Rain Man, remember Valerie Golino? What the hell happened to her? She was in tons of movies in the late 80's/early 90's and then just dropped off of the face of the earth. I suspect she went to a top-secret clinic in Zurich, had her Italian-ness surgically removed and then re-emerged as Rashida Jones.

Kyle: lol. Yeah...that was actually a stupid thing to write about Die Hard. ([grumble, grumble] "I wanted more character development...") My bad.

1989: Say Anything...: '89 strikes me as a really deep draft class with no real Hall of Famers. By which I mean, Say Anything...--which I didn't see until 2003 or so--is, pretty clearly, a wonderful movie, but it ain't exactly cracking anyone's all-time Top 10, is it now? I just happen to like it slightly more than anything else that came out in 1989. That's alright. Some years are like that. Like many mid- to late-80s movies, I feel it's victimized by its one iconic scene (Cusack holding the stereo over his head outside Ione Sky's house), in that people tend to remember that part at the expense of the rest of the film. (Other examples: the jewelry case scene in Pretty Woman, the giant piano sequence in Big, and the batdance in Batman...ok, maybe not that last one.) Here, the ending serves to obscure the fact that this is probably the best writing Cameron Crowe's ever done. (That this is the same person that would go on to write and direct the positively atrocious and virtually unwatchable Elizabethtown--ostensibly, also a romcom--is kind of staggering.)

Excellent performances here by Cusack, Skye (WTHIGOW her, btw?), and John Mahoney....and full credit to this film for beginning as what seems like a forgettable generic romantic comedy, but actually delivering so much more. Make no mistake, it's still a romcom, but at least it's one that presents the viewer with realistic obstacles between the two leads. As an added bonus, John Mahoney is one of the few token romcom parents that actually brings something to the table (I won't spoil if you haven't seen it, but suffice to say his C-story becomes a B-story about two-thirds of the way through the movie, and an engaging one at that).

Mark: Man, aside from Full Metal Jacket, I haven't seen ANY of your top picks yet. This is getting sad. I think Ione Skye literally didn't work again until she played Ann's mother on Arrested Development ("I want to please you secularly!")

Kyle: I forgot that was her! Nice.

Other nominees....

Do The Right Thing: this is going to sound so stupid, but do you know what DTRT is great at? Conveying heat. It's basically impossible to watch this film and not empathize with Mookie, in that cramped apartment with that tiny fan, sweating his balls off...and just being miserable. May seem like a small thing, but it hooked me. This is also why I'm a bigger fan of Summer of Sam than pretty much anyone I know. If you catch it again (though it's never on, so you'd probably have to rent it), note Spike Lee's use of orange, red, and yellow filters throughout. Half the time NYC seems like it's about to explode (literally), which, thematically, is of course perfect for a movie about serial killer on the loose.

Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade:
secretly awesome, the final third in particular.

Batman:
I was going to ask whether you thought this was the 2nd or the 3rd best movie in the series, but I went back and double-checked your best superhero movies list from last May and saw that Batman Begins was #1 (now, presumably, #2) and that the original Batman is #7 (now #8), so that settles that. What really surprised me is that you seem to have Batman and Batman Returns (#9) as more or less even, while I think the former is far superior to the latter, which really foreshadowed the campiness the series would quickly descend into. Anyway, here's perhaps a better question...who is a better Batman/Bruce Wayne: Bale or Keaton? Hint: my answer might surprise you.

Field of Dreams:
terribly sappy, but it's hard not to like this movie. My problem now is that, as a result of a frequent exchange between Misha (erstwhile blog contributor) and (friend of blog) Jeff Teolis, the emotional heart of the movie--"hey dad, wanna have a catch?"--now causes be to descend into a giggle fit paroxysms of laughter.

movie from 1989 that I probably should've seen by now: My Left Foot: note that, had Carrie been aware of this at the time, there's about a 25% chance she wouldn't have accepted my proposal...)

Mark: Bale is the better Bruce Wayne, but Keaton (though I totally don't subscribe to the 'Bale makes his Batman voice sound too silly' theory) is the better Batman. I wouldn't call 'Returns' any campier than the original; I mean, Joker pulled a 15-foot long gun out of his pocket and shot down the Batplane. That seems higher on the camp scale to me than Penguin's circus of crime. And wait, how is Last Crusade 'secretly' awesome? That's one of the few movies I know of that everyone loves.

Kyle: I think you're spot on about Keaton vs. Bale (although I will say that I like Keaton's interpretation of Wayne--suave--better than Bale's--kind of detached). As for Last Crusade, I say "secretly awesome" because I feel like #3 is treated as almost an afterthought to Indy fans. Everyone loved Raiders and then disliked/tolerated/or were indifferent to Doom. So when Crusade came out, everyone was relieved that it was more Raiders than Doom...and seemed content to leave it at that, when in fact Crusade is every inch the movie Raiders is and may, in fact, be even better.

1990: Goodfellas: the best movie of the decade...though my pick for '91 is close. I love how the movie covers 25 years (where a less confident director probably would've gone for half of that). I love the editing (tons of quick cuts). I love the soundtrack (though Scorcese would quickly become a parody of himself by doing the exact same thing with Casino, with seriously diminishing returns). And I love the intense paranoia of the third act. With a strung out Henry driving to the airport to pick up their drug mule, the helicopters buzzing overhead, and the tight handheld camera work, you, too, start to feel just a little bit twitchy. Finally, I love how Ray Liotta (do you remember him? He used to make really good movies...) unexpectedly breaks down the fourth wall in the film's penultimate scene. Just a fabulous film.

Other nominees...

Pretty Woman:
yeah, yeah, "wanna know how I know you're gay? You have Pretty Woman on your list of best movies for 1990." Screw it, I think it's winning.

Reversal of Fortune:
oddly, though Ron Silver's Alan Derschowitz is ostensibly the film's central character (it's based on his book, after all), it's Jeremy Irons (as Claus van Bulow) that carries this film. Without him, I have no doubt this would be totally forgotten. Worth seeing if you haven't already.

Miller's Crossing:
The best film noir this side of, say, Chinatown (and that's pretty heady company). I would give almost anything to shoot a scene as gorgeous as the forest execution. (Although, evidently, I'm not nearly so gay for it as Richard Corliss, who put it on his list of the 100 best films ever, and breathlessly described it as: "[film] noir with a touch so light, the film seems to float on the breeze like the Frisbee of a fedora sailing through the forest." Sure.)

Edward Scissorhands:
a sublimely executed dark fantasy. Easily my favorite Burton (and, come to think of it, Depp) movie. Amazingly, in a review I imagine he wishes he could have back, Roger Ebert panned the movie (click here for the suprisingly harsh review--dare I say he "shreds" it? Oh my god, I'm so sorry.)

movie from 1990 that I probably should've seen by now: Dances with Wolves

Mark: Goodfellas was pretty awesome, no question. Arguably his best directing job....though of course, not better than Kevin Costner's directorial flair (*shakes fist at Academy*). 'Pretty Woman' is a TERRIBLE movie. Virtually unwatchable. The funny thing is, if it had been done as a satire or as a drama, it would've been worthwhile. But as a straight romantic comedy? Give me a break.

Kyle: see, now you've put in the awkward position of noting that, about twenty paragraphs ago, you said you'd never seen Pretty Woman. Pick a side, Shuk, we're at war. As for Dances with Wolves, it virtually running the table in 1990 (except, very tellingly, in the three acting categories where it was nominated) never really stops being annoying.

1991: JFK: also has the distinction of being the only movie I can ever recall having an intermission (thank you, Capitol!). JFK happens to be the first movie I was ever really passionate about in a critical manner, in that I devoured absolutely every book I could get my hands on about Kennedy for the the 12-18 months following the film's release. (And no 13-year old should ever be as excited as I was when JFK took home its lone Oscar--for cinematography.) Nearly two decades on, I can see now that it's by no means a perfect movie--Kevin Bacon's character is totally extraneous and could easily have been cut from the film (which makes the fact that his character turns out to be a composite of several people--something I later discovered--even more annoying); the stuff with Garrison's family is pretty tedious; and so forth. But there are moments in movie that are so spectacular (Garrison talking to Donald Sutherland's X on that park bench, which leads into possibly the best montage ever committed to celluloid that doesn't involve the Hickory Huskers or Rocky scaling the tallest mountain in Russia) and so compelling (the trial itself, which is superbly executed), that I can easily forgive everything else. I think it's brilliant.

Mark: Kyle, stand back, since I'm about to blow the mind of your 13-year-old self. JFK actually won TWO Oscars, one for cinematography and one for editing. The editing Oscar, btw, may have been the most deserved award in the history of the Academy, given that Joe Hutshing and Pietro Scalia managed to cut Stone's directorial diarrhea into a somewhat coherent narrative. Over/under on the amount of Jack Daniels shots drunk by Hutshing and Scalia during the editing process: 312. Your list is making me feel like a dick. I either haven't seen your top choices, disliked them (JFK) or thought they should be halved (Full Metal Jacket). But I liked Goodfellas! That makes me a good fella in your books, right?

Kyle: No. (Wow...two Oscars! My worldview has been shaken.)

Other nominees...

The Silence of the Lambs: could easily be #1 for this year (it's undeniably great), but I gave JFK the nod because I feel it's slightly (considerably?) more audacious. (If you think about it, Lambs is very much a two-person play--no, Shuk, not like Love Letters.) Here's a question: how come I never hear anyone talk about TSOTL kicking off the torture porn era? Admittedly, it's a bit of a stretch, since the Saw and Hostel series (along with lesser fair like Turristas and the Ruins) don't emerge on the scene until 2004, but can't their roots be found in the harrowing scenes between Buffalo Bill and the girl in the hole (Catherine Martin)? You could, I suppose, make a case that this all dates back to Friday the 13th and Halloween, but those are straight-up slasher movies. This intrigues me.

Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves: two Costner movies in one year? Holy shit! Look, I've always felt that, provided you can get beyond the lack of an accent on Costner's part (and if you're still pissed he didn't even try, I urge you to check out Thirteen Days, a tremendous movie that Costner single-handedly nearly torpedoes with his horrific attempt at a Boston accent), this movie is pretty damn entertaining. I'm more than willing to concede that movie works far better when you're 12 than when you're nearly (sob) 30.

Terminator 2:
Despite my bitching about T2 in my write-up of the original (btw, I really liked Peter's comment about T2 being an inversion of T1--had never thought of it quite that way), I'm still a big fan of the second one...I just think it's kind of empty. My thinking is this: you can't really identify with Sarah Connor in the film (because she appears to be batshit insane), or John Connor (a whiny bitch), or The Terminator (seems silly now, but in '91, having just seen the original, I was convinced Arnold was going to turn on them). Which leaves us with...the T-1000. Now, make no mistake, Robert Patrick is amazing in the role (one of the ten best villains in history--not sure why he isn't commonly regarded as such), but if the villain is far and away the most interesting part of the movie, well...I dunno, it's strange, isn't it? [obligatory Dark Knight reference here]

The Commitments:
can't believe this one is nearly twenty years old. That's kind of depressing. Truthfully, I barely remember anything about this film, aside from it being a rollicking good time and having a kick-ass soundtrack. That's enough.

movie from 1991 that I probably should've seen by now: Hearts of Darkness: A Filmmaker's Apocalypse

Mark: Interesting point about 'Lambs' and the torture-porn movies. I guess the difference, ultimately, is that a) Demme is actually a good director, whereas the Saw and Hostel movies are made by a cavalcade of hacks and b) there is very little actual violence or gore in TSOTL. The terror is almost entirely psychological, which is obviously far creepier than just showing, say, Buffalo Bill skinning a woman.

The best part about Prince of Thieves is Alan Rickman (note: this sentence can be re-used for virtually every Alan Rickman movie). I'm intrigued by this upcoming Robin Hood movie that Ridley Scott and Russell Crowe are working on, where Crowe will play both Robin Hood AND the Sheriff of Nottingham. My favourite production anecdote thus far has been that Sienna Miller was fired from the role of Maid Marion and replaced by Cate Blanchett because Blanchett was closer to Crowe in age. What great reasoning. They couldn't have just said "Cate Blanchett is a way, way better actress" rather than looking like idiots for making it seem as if they just now realized the 20+ year age gap between Miller and Crowe? This movie is off to a roaring start.

Kyle: I can't decide if the version of Sienna Miller being canned I read about is more or less embarrassing. Allegedly, she was let go because Crowe had gotten too fat (and refused to lose the weight) and Miller looked preposterous next to him. I mean, that's a dig at Crowe and Blanchett (of course, so is the age thing...albeit to a lesser extent). Agreed about Rickman. He's all kinds of awesome (he's a huuuuuge reason I'm a big fan of the 1995 version of Sense and Sensibility).

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